to think Mary Berry is at best naive, and at worst deluded, about feminism?

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free Daily Mail link

Apparently feminists are shouty. We should enjoy being "looked after" and gently persuade our menfolk with our feminine wiles to do what we want. It's alright if you're surrounded by well-meaning malleable blokes.

No mention of equal pay, equal voting rights, equal employment opportunities, freedom from sexual discrimination or harrassment, etc. No - all you need to do, is "persuade them [men] gently to do things and, of course, when they come back they say, ?Oh, wasn?t that fun?? Try telling that to victims of domestic violence Mary...

The hard-working people up and down the land are paying for all of this. Their taxes are funding it. Businesses are fnding it.

The silver-spooned toffs, out ot touch and out of order, are slowly strangling the goose that lays the golden eggs.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146800/Civil-servants-36-days-extra-holiday-year-stay-desks-6pm-short-lunch-break.html

'Controversial new 'flexitime' arrangements are allowing Whitehall officials an extra three days holiday a month if they work over 36 hours a week, it was revealed today.
More and more civil servants are working nine-day fortnights by cutting lunch breaks short and staying in the office until 6pm, allowing them extra holiday.
Whitehall staff can even factor delays getting to work due to traffic into their contracted working week, according to a leaked document seen by the Daily Telegraph.'

Meanwhile small business owners and hundreds of thousands of ordinary employees are working ever longer hours just trying to keep afloat and in order to pay rates and taxes that fund the policies introduced by the silver-spooned toffs, with their public school hats and quaint uniforms and their elegant legal gowns.

Soon the country will rise and demand the return of the Thatch, and it won't come a moment too soon!

Do you hear the people sing?

Blistory where are you getting that from my posts? I think you are misreading them.
I am referring to large organisations - multinationals etc. I think I made that pretty clear

'Do you hear the people sing?'

It's only a murmuring now, only a rumbling. The Daily Mail has it ear to teh ground and has heard it. Soon it will be a crescendo.

We found out about the MPs' expenses, soon we will find out what the ordinary workers are paying for, we will find out how the other half live on the taxes of the backbone of the nation.

The toffs in their towers will hear the singing of the people when they demand an end to the exploitation, austerity and squeezing of the goose that lays the golden egg.

The toofs will go and the likes of the Thatch will take their place.

Thats hilarious Claig (or are you Clegg????)

The churches will once again be full, the bells will ring out loud and Hallelujah will echo across the land.

'or are you Clegg????'

How VERY dare you!! That silver-spooned toff!

Does Clegg read the Daily Mail? Does he heck!
Toffs read the Guardian, not the paper of the people!

Mrs Thatcher is a messianic figure. She will return to save the country, just like King Arthur.

Didn't she herself predict 'the return of the Mummy'?
and she wasn't talking about a yummy mummy, oh no!

' She will return to save the country, just like King Arthur. '

That is certainly what the silent majority wish for. For Clegg is no Sir Galahad, that's why things have got so bad. He is no Lancelot, some commentators say he has lost the plot.

Yes claig and she can deregulate more banks (and kiss the axxx of the darling bankers) like she did at the start of the the mess that you seem to have forgotten that she and her chum Reagan created. (oh she also allowed EVERYONE in to own U.K. businesses).

I was being sarcastic. Was Claig not? Surely she can't really think this stuff?

God since when have we all cared what MARY BERRY thinks?! The worlds gone mad etc etc etc

Ariel I got the feeling that claig was being serious I'd be pleased to be put right though .

Of course you're right ponydilemma The DM seems to care though or it thinks we do.

I am joking, but I do believe that some of the toffs' policies are anti-business and that harms ordinary people who want business to thrive so that they can get employment.

Toffs aren't affected by their own policies, because they are millionaires on good expenses, but ordinary people need a business-friendly environment.

At first, I hoped that the socialists in France might be able to achieve growth for the people. But it is starting to look like a disaster. Anti-business policies and high taxation of high earners is driving business people to leave France and growth is not happening. If they had an Iron Lady, they would probably be able to get some growth.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269938/France-totally-bankrupt-jobs-minister-admits-concerns-grow-Hollandes-tax-spend-policies.html

DH thinks that Etonians can't understand the MCs and W.Cs but it's down to intelligence, study and empathy. IMO

I don't remember Thatcher helping the W.C.s apart from selling Council houses which just created more homelessness.

But the "growth' that Thatcher got has left us ALL in a pile of shxx it was a fake bubble that has effing burst or maybe you haven't noticed Claig? I noticed you didn't reply to my post about Thatcher CREATING the problem we're in.

I agree that Thatcher was the cause of some of our problems, but she also did some good things too. I prefer Thatcher to silver-spooned toffs like Clegg.

Thatcher was a grocer's daughter, she was one of us, not a toff. She didn't bow and scrape to them and was far more capable than the whole lot of them put together.

They are out of touch and do have a lack of empathy and understanding of the lives and struggles of ordinary people.

The toffs claim that they want to "save the planet" for us, but we know their game. It's the old "cost ya, cost ya, loadsamoney". They put red-tape and regulations on business which stifles growth and they privatize businesses that then increase energy charges by around 10% every year while wages grow at about 1% for millions of people.

The toffs work flexitime, with expenses paid for by the public, while the workers graft full-time.

I prefer Thatcher to Fettes public school boys like Tony Blair too.

Sorry claig but constantly using the word toffs is undermining your argument.

Just because Thatcher was a grocer's daughter, it didn't make her "one of us". If she ever was one of us, she lost that empathy extremely quickly.

Why does Clegg upset you more than Cameron? He of the "I trust and love all corrupt press officers" And the lover of Murdoch newspaper empires (if it was up to him we'd be ruled by the Sun, News of the World and all their corrupt cronies) Thank goodness that those poor parents of the murdered girl blew the whistle on the crap the newspapers print I don't believe ANY of them; esp. not the DM.

Oh and some people actually care about what sort of mess this planet is going to be left in by going for 'growth' at any cost and about workers conditions; I worked P.T. and I'm not a toff it seems that the DM has a champion in you claig

Thatcher was one of us, she was exceptional. She was a woman in a male world of snobbert and privilege. I am sure that some of those Etonians etc. looked down on this upstart woman who told them what to do. But they soon recognised that she was more capable and had more steel and iron than the whole lot of them.

Spitting Image had it right with that classic sketch where a waiter takes her order in a cabinet type meeting, and then the waiter asks her "what about the vegetables?" and she says "they'll have what I'm having".

Those were the days!