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to think this 'diet' is an eating disorder

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BlackMaryJanes · 25/01/2013 10:52

I'm dieting the old fashioned way - exercise and reducing calories to about 1800.

My friend recently told me about a diet she's thinking about doing called "The Alternative Day Diet". In this diet, you eat 400 cals one day, then you're allowed to eat whatever you like the next day, then back to 400 cals the next day, then eat whatever you like for a day, etc.

I've done some research on this seemingly popular diet. Apparently it switches on a 'skinny gene' which keeps your metabolism in top condition, burning calories. It also has other claimed health benefits such as - making you live longer (there was a Horizon documentary on the BBC backing this up). The internet is full of gleeming reviews.

But surely this pattern of eating is unsustainable and encourages disordered thinking? I feel a bit concerned for my friend. When she latches onto an idea she tends to go hardcore.

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shine0ncrazydiamond · 25/01/2013 12:21

I looked into this diet and read a lot about it so hopefully can offer up my opinion without being lynched Grin

I currently weigh 9 stone after following a calorie controlled diet with moderate carbing. I was interested in the alternate day diet for maintenance so read up on it. I'm not convinced. This is just a calorie controlled diet by any other name. So, < for example > 500 calories one day, 1800 the next. 2300 over two days. 1150 a day. THIS is what makes you lose weight - not some sort of metabolic swing.

Another point.. I have followed diaries on a forum devoted to this diet... some have been following it for a year or so. And the vast vast majority are the exact same weight as they were at the start of it, so I'd be interested to see on here where people are in 6 months time. My guess would be not much further forward.

I think if you have a lot to lose then yes, initially you are going to see weight loss. I also think that if you want to maintain your weight then, yes, it will be OK for this too. But for knocking off 3 or 4 stone? Maybe.... but be prepared to lose a pound or two a month at most once you have been doing it a little while.

I know it is really dull and I speak as someone who tried every diet in the world before finally getting it right - but the only thing that really works is to eat less, stop eating white carbs, keep alcohol to a minimum and don't snack between meals. That works.

We are all looking for something different/unusual and this seems like it could be it... in my view it's 'just another diet' and should be approached as such.

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BlackMaryJanes · 25/01/2013 12:22

The other 5 days as my eating has already being restricted I rarely eat over 1800

I eat 1800 every day and I go to bed hungry :( I'm hungry a lot. So the thought of adding 2 days with just 500 cals does not sound veasible to me.

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whois · 25/01/2013 12:22

Yes I am - step aerobics, bootcamp and spinning, every week. Plus breastfeeding (3 feeds a day)

The pounds will be shedding off then. My SIL is bf a monster eater 5 month old on the 98th weight percentile, she is shovelling food down like there is no tomorrow and getting can't keep her weight on. She didn't have any to loose to start with tho.

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BlackMaryJanes · 25/01/2013 12:23

I'm sick of being hungry tbh :( that's why I worry that if I were to follow the 5:2 diet, I would just 'go crazy' on the feast days. My hunger is seldom satisfied.

The last time I felt satisfied was when I hate a large pizza before new year.

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BIWI · 25/01/2013 12:23

BMJ - I see you are new to MN. I did a search on your name because I was beginning to think you were deliberately being provocative with your posts. Is there a reason why you are being so confrontational about this? Starting it in AIBU was also a pretty provocative thing to do.

If you really want to know about fasting there are plenty of threads with people who have been doing it for some time - which you would know because you've already posted on one of them. Why not join one/some/all of those and see what you can glean from people who are already experienced in a fasting diet?

I'm interested that you say you're interested in fasting but at the same time, keep slagging it off and defending what you're doing!

What's the point?

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DamnBamboo · 25/01/2013 12:24

So if I didn't restrict my diet intake to 1800 I would still be loosing weight? Nope. Because BFing makes me hungry so if I ate what I'd like I'd just be consuming all the calories back

Err no, that's not what I said. The point being is if you weren't breastfeeding and like an average British female (realise there is big variance) to stay in energy balance you required 2000kcal per day, dropping down to 1800kcal per day for weight loss, would not be very effective at all.

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BIWI · 25/01/2013 12:24

Sorry - that was a genuine question - what is the point?

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VinegarTits · 25/01/2013 12:24

i think the op is just looking for a bun fight

[another wasted pun emotion]

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DamnBamboo · 25/01/2013 12:26

OP, how much do you have to lose?

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ivykaty44 · 25/01/2013 12:26

If you are constantly feeling hungry - is there a medical condition that you don't know about causing this? When you were pg did you have a problem with your thyroid at all? It isn't unheard of to have an over active thyroid during pg which would make you very hungry and find it difficult to fell satisfied after eating

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BIWI · 25/01/2013 12:26

And massive cross post there, BMJ. Now I understand why you would see 500 calories as 'starving' if you're always hungry after eating 1800 calories!

1800 calories is quite a lot to eat, yet still feel hungry. Are you eating a lot of carbohydrate? (Bread/pasta/rice/fruit/sugar?)

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DamnBamboo · 25/01/2013 12:27

OP, you got issues with hunger, eat lots of protein and fibre where possible. ANd this shouldn't be an issue for you any more.

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BIWI · 25/01/2013 12:27

Grin Vinny!

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BlackMaryJanes · 25/01/2013 12:27

This is just a calorie controlled diet by any other name.

That's my gut feeling too.

But what's all this 'skinny gene' lark?

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shine0ncrazydiamond · 25/01/2013 12:29

It is exactly that BMJ. In my opinion : )

However i think you're possibly spoiling for a spat, no?

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BlackMaryJanes · 25/01/2013 12:29

If you really want to know about fasting there are plenty of threads with people who have been doing it for some time

Yeah I posted on the 5:2 thread but was ignored.

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DamnBamboo · 25/01/2013 12:29

But what's all this 'skinny gene' lark?

Look it up!
You don't believe any of us on here anyway, may as well do your own research



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curryeater · 25/01/2013 12:29

Sorry to hijack, but as there are so many here who are doing well on the 5:2, can I briefly ask whether anyone is doing it on ADs, specifically fluoxetine? Thanks.

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DamnBamboo · 25/01/2013 12:30

Yeah I posted on the 5:2 thread but was ignored

I can see why! (if you posted in the same manner as you are on here)

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BlackMaryJanes · 25/01/2013 12:30

OP, how much do you have to lose?

About 1 stone.

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BlackMaryJanes · 25/01/2013 12:31

If you are constantly feeling hungry - is there a medical condition that you don't know about causing this?

I've recently had my thyroid tested, as I was worried about my hunger, but the doc said the blood test was fine. She dismissed my hunger.

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ivykaty44 · 25/01/2013 12:31

Op you ask questions - people answer, then you highlight the answer or part of and go off on another tangent.

It is like dealing with a teenager tantrum

Stop and listen to what is being said to you instead of throwing your toys out of the pram - you might learn something.

if you do some research of your own you will find out about this diet reducing the risk of cancer...

Off for lunch

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BIWI · 25/01/2013 12:32

Er - actually, you weren't ignored! Someone responded directly to you about 4 or 5 posts later!

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MadBusLady · 25/01/2013 12:32

I low-carb too. It mainly worked by retraining my appetite (nothing makes you hungry again like carbs do) and encouraging me to eat plateloads of vegetables (because there isn't really much else to eat, once you've reach your upper limit for bacon, which astonishingly you do have). These are both good things, and I've got nearly two stone off like that and kept it off for nearly two years with no problem. I do eat some carby foods now, they're just not the cornerstone of my diet any more - I totally lost the taste for crappy bread every day though.

To me, the 5:2 seems like a logical next step because it is also about retraining appetite. What interests me is it closely resembles how I used to naturally eat when I was skinny. Some days I'd pick at things and do weird things like have an apple and a piece of cake for dinner, other days I'd eat normally - all because I felt like it rather than because I was disciplining myself. I didn't eat enough veg, definitely. But the overall pattern meant my stomach was pretty small, which made it hard to overeat. Looking back, where it all went wrong was when I decided I was going to have three square meals a day like a grown-up!

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DamnBamboo · 25/01/2013 12:32

1 stone is not a lot. Are you overweight? How old is your DC?

Why don't you just wait until you're no longer BF'ing and embark a new eating regime then?

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