to wonder why the female co-presenter on Countdown has to dress like a stripper

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Just that.

Is this 2013? Just utterly depressing.

I think the main problem is that older women know that no one wants them any more, no matter if they dye their hair/wear make up/go on a diet (perhaps if they have surgery!!), and they are jealous to see the young women who are desirable and remind them of what they have lost. There is nothing for them but the long wrinkled road to the grave and it makes them jealous and bitter.

I agree MrsBucket & Hullygully, I think everyone has read into her wearing nice clothes far too much. And prepares herself for vicious onslaught I kinda agree with hopeful that I think the issue here is more their perception of her outfits; its a tad judgy for op to say someone dresses like a stripper. But I also think this thread has gone personal which it isn't meant to. Why can't people share an opinion without it turning into a catfight?

Arf, Hully.

that's girls for you!

why oh why can't girls just have a discussion like men????

why oh why does it turn into bitchiness and catfighting??????

Mrsbucket did you actually mean this the way it reads:
^^If my daughter is praised for her looks good on her, she is more likely to get a better job husband whatever,
If she is educated on top of that its a double whammy^^

Seriously? Is that how you really think? Good looks will help get you a good job and 'get' a husband?
Whereas education is just a 'nice to have'?

I despair

hully

It's like that Mary Beard, moaning about what people said. What did she expect with her long grey hair???? She makes no effort with her appearance at all, she could dye it, or have a stylish short cut.

Like Mrs Wormwood said in Matilda..."You chose books..."

How else would it be?

that's girls for you!

why oh why can't girls just have a discussion like men????

why oh why does it turn into bitchiness and catfighting??????

Oh my god. Is this really what you think? Do you know anything about people? Not women, not men, but people? Have you seen PMQs lately? Your attitude to women is horrible.

drjohn you are proving my point there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

MIAOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

quite right, old and jealous, if they'd just quit with the nagging then men and other folk might actually listen to them.

Sorry but that's not bitchy. It's me disagreeing with you and finding your attitude horrible. Here's why.

You just said that women can't discuss things like men without descending into bitchiness and catfighting which is:

a) not a particularly good goal to have anyway
b) not a very good observation since on the whole, men don't manage to keep a reasonable discourse among themselves
c) not accurate

I will not stand by and let women be described like that. It's me, it's my sisters, it's my friends, it's my daughter. I don't see bitchiness and catfighting. I'm sorry that you do but perhaps that's because of the way you choose to engage ("jealous and bitter" were your words and they do not apply to any of the women I know).

drjohn, I may, just may, have been being a wee bit satirical

I would like Rachel on Mumsnet so that we can hear it from the horse's mouth... or even a Daily Mail article responding to MN would do ....

which bit was satirical? the bitter and jealous bit?

Have you been goading MrsBucket this whole time?

Not goading as such, just gently pointing out the nonsense, shall we say...

Golly!at last i have been on a mean girl's thread! Exhilirating! Surreptitiously seeking for viperidciae...

Hully

It's so refreshing to see that those feminists have a sense of humour after all!

One person's slutty is another person's normal dress. If I wore what I am wearing today (skinny jeans and a jumper) in some countries I might be arrested for it. OK, an extreme example, but there are more subtle variations even in this country.

Oh then I am so sorry! I am mortified! You are too subtle for me. Have you considered a career as an undercover agent?

I thought I had seen your name associated with sense previously but am very bad at remembering who anyone is on here. Sorry. As you were!

TOO SUBTLE!

Did you not count the exclamation marks?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought you were shouting

I am an idiot. And I don't even look good in a pink lycra tiger skin miniskirt.

i bet you look well hot

She can wear what she bloody well likes. And everyone else can piss off.