to wonder why the female co-presenter on Countdown has to dress like a stripper

[hamtastrophe]

Just that.

Is this 2013? Just utterly depressing.

[Hobbitation]

I thought she looked fantastic on Friday, first time I'd watched in ages. I wondered if she'd read the thread as well, or her agent had. Poor Rachel.

[MurderOfGoths]

"As an aside, Paul Dacre (Daily Mail editor) insists women in his features section must wear a skirt or dress. No trousers."

Good thing we already knew he was a twat really

[MrsBethel]

Some of you lot are as bad as AA Gill.

[Latara]

YANBU.

[DontEvenThinkAboutIt]

She looks georgeous today. I love her dress and it is the right size for a change

[drjohnsonscat]

at oh but men are so much more visual than we are.

That's another unfeminist word bingo statement checked off the list

[MaureenShit]

YANBU

she looks dire

[BegoniaBampot]

caught it today. she looked lovely and much classier.maybe she's been reading mumsnet.

[EugenesAxe]

YANBU... I always think that. She is so beautiful and could look very sexy without having to stray into the realms of 'tart'.

I always think Susie Dent looks amazing, in her beautiful, sexy, non-tart clothing and wish that Rachel could do too.
I think aesthetically a short skirt is best for Rachel, but honestly, does it have to be 6 inches or so above her knee? Why not 1 or 2?

[MrsBucketxx]

Would we really want to see Nick in hot pants hhhhmmmm I think not.

Personally I wont want to see half naked men, most are average at best.

[MidnightMasquerader]

"I don't see why female presenters should be ashamed of their bodies and feel like they have to cover themselves up."

I agree with that sentiment in theory, but it doesn't pan out in practice.

When we see men rushing to present TV shows in hot pants and décolletage-plunging vests, exposing as much of their flesh as they possible can, then I'll fully agree with the sentiment.

Oddly, men are not rushing to do this...

[Harriet35]

Victorian men saw table legs in a sexual way. I don't think you can stop the male brain from thinking about sex, or that you'd want to.

[Harriet35]

I think saying she dresses like a stripper is a bit OTT but she does dress very sexily. I think the programmers wanted to attract a younger audience. I don't see why female presenters should be ashamed of their bodies and feel like they have to cover themselves up.

[Birdsgottafly]

The same could be said for gymnastics, it is a pity that we allowed every form of expressive art to be sexualised, or that people see it that way.

Many top pole dancers go on to perform with the Cirque du Soleil.

[MurderOfGoths]

"pole dancing is actually a lovely artform when done well"

Don't know about an art form, but it can be incredibly impressive in terms of physical ability/strength/balance. That side of it is truly amazing. I saw some fantastic pole dancing at an exhibition once (they were modestly dressed and not doing any grinding/humping) and was in absolute awe of the talent these women had!

However, most of the time, the pole dancing you see is people basically mimicking sexual positions or getting into positions which are designed primarily to show off the genitals. Which is not something you'd be likely to see men doing.

[CrumbyCrumbs]

You have obviously never seen it done properly. Stop stereotyping people your so judgemental!

[PickledInAPearTree]

Horrible mental images of brucie doing Alan partridge-esque lap dance .

[Hullygully]

a lovely art form when done well

WAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

nice try

[AnyFucker]

Who are all these women on Mumsnet recently coming out of the woodwork to deny the existence of sexism and misogyny ?

How have they been made ? What world have they been living in ?

[LesBOFerables]

about women. And Im not talking about art forms, I'm taking about raunch culture. Excuse typos, on phone.

[LesBOFerables]

It's part of the rhetoric of "empowerment" that gets used by/ab

[CrumbyCrumbs]

LesBOFerables what does swinging round poles have to do with this? We're talking about wearing revealing clothing, not pole dancing! And pole dancing is actually a lovely artform when done well. I don't think the issue here is actually the one it seems, it's something entirely different.

I have never been treated in an unequal way to men.

[SparkyTGD]

Me too Murder

Older (ahem) women need some eye candy too