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To say STOP asking posters WHY they decided to become pregnant, have more dc etc

69 replies

akaemmafrost · 13/01/2013 12:52

When they post about problematic relationships or life situations? And CERTAINLY NOT when there are disabilities involved.

Three times on three separate posts I have seen this question today and it infuriates me. I would be interested to know how many of you who ask that question would ask it face to face to a struggling pregnant woman or mother in terrible pain in RL.

  1. They can't give them back and I am quite sure no matter whatever their personal situation they would not want to.
  2. It adds NOTHING whatsoever to the discussion or support requested, it's a total dead end question that ensures the poster goes immediately on the defensive and feels ever MORE shite than when they first posted. Not terribly helpful in abusive situations.
  3. No one can predict what will happen, life changes in a heart beat.
  4. It makes you sound unbearably smug and judgey and like you don't have much life experience tucked up in your little ivory tower.

Thank you.

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TheSecretCervixDNCOP · 13/01/2013 12:56

I completely agree, there was a thread not so long ago where a mother was struggling as her DP worked long hours and she had three disabled children, people had the nerve to question her as to why she had a third when the two she had were already ill/disabled. It was a contraceptive failure I think but still you DON'T ask that even if their children are in good health. YANBU

LadyIsabellaWrotham · 13/01/2013 13:00

I don't ever ask it, but in cases where the OH is clearly a bastard I think it, often. I agree that it adds nothing to the thread in question though, I don't think there's ever a good reason to say it to someone's face (or the MN equivalent).

onetiredmummy · 13/01/2013 13:00

I think it depends on the thread. If it sounds dodgy or genuinely more info is needed I don't see a problem with it.

I haven't read the thread above but I have seen it used in the past as a way of commenting on the poster's past choice, e.g. 'its your own fault then 'kind of thing & I that is just malicious.

but for relevant fact finding I think its OK. The OP doesn't have to answer.

TheVermiciousKnid · 13/01/2013 13:01

YANBU!

StraightTalkinSheila · 13/01/2013 13:28

I heart akaemmafrost.

Pseudo341 · 13/01/2013 14:02

YANBU. I'm disabled, we're TTC DC2 atm despite having had all sorts of crappy problems in the last year because we want 2 kids, we want to minimise the age gap, and there's possible treatment for me that has to be on hold until we've finished having kids. There's been a couple of times I've been tempted to ask advice on here recently but decided against it because I know I'll get a load of crap about it being stupid to be trying for another one. There's the possiblity a second pregnancy may put me full time in a wheelchair, I know it'll be worth it but I don't expect a lot of people on here to understand. It's a shame because I've had some sensible advice on this site in the past.

CrazyChristmasLady · 13/01/2013 14:05

YANBU.

It does sound unbearably smug when people do it.

AKissIsNotAContract · 13/01/2013 14:06

YANBU, it's infuriating.

Alisvolatpropiis · 13/01/2013 14:26

YANBU. At all.

It's like the threads when the OP has had enough or close to enough of her DP's behaviour because he's abusive/adulterous or just generally shit and people go "why did marry/have children with such a wanker then?". How is that helpful?

BeauticianNotMagician · 13/01/2013 14:34

YANBU I had it for years from people.I was in an abusive relationship with ex DP and yes after dc1 I knew what he was like and stupidly tried for dc2.I was young and naive and thought that I could change him. I left him before dc2 was born.

I learnt so much from it.I will never allow another person to control me again.Unfortunately people feel free to comment on situations they know nothing about.Its easy to say to someone get out of a relationship but a lot harder to do.Then when I finally left I got comments about how awful it must be to be a single parent Shock

akaemmafrost · 13/01/2013 14:43

I totally understand pseudo Smile

Mwah! sheila Grin

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StraightTalkinSheila · 13/01/2013 14:52

You're welcome. Credit where credit's due. Smile

Sunnywithshowers · 13/01/2013 14:59

YANBU

ShellyBoobs · 13/01/2013 15:17

I will admit to often thinking it but I'd never say it.

Nobody's life is simple and straighforward enough for a simple and straightforward answer to such a question.

I just assume that there are things going on which we're not party to.

honeytea · 13/01/2013 15:52

I disagree, my mother had me and my db with a very unsuitable man and when she moans about him I say to her it's her own fault for having babies with him, especially 2 babies. These men don't usually change from ideal partners to idiots with the birth of a child.

When a poster complains about an ongoing problem such as a recent thread where op's dp had been unemployed for 2 years and op was 6 months pregnant and complaining that her dp was useless and wouldn't get a job I think to ask her why she chooses to have a 2nd child rather than take responsibility for their financial position by getting a job herself is relevant.

akaemmafrost · 13/01/2013 15:56

Do you wish she hadn't had you and DB then Honeytea because that's the alternative.

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akaemmafrost · 13/01/2013 15:56

The point is what answer do you want to that question when you ask it? What does it add?

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MurderOfGoths · 13/01/2013 15:58

YAsoNBU!

honeytea · 13/01/2013 16:02

I don't wish she hadn't had us but I do wish she wouldn't moan about a problem that was completely her making. The way I see it is she had a baby with a man who was mentally unstable, not working manipulative and a drug user, he was all theses things before I was born, he continued to be those things after I was born and was still all those things when my brother was born. It was my mother's choice to have babies so she shouldn't moan about it.

akaemmafrost · 13/01/2013 16:08

But you and your brother are here living productive lives I take it. Surely thats a positive outcome from a Not Great Situation?

People make mistakes don't they? Are you a "you made your bed" kind of person?

I respect you have your opinion but I couldn't disagree more with you.

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HappyMummyOfOne · 13/01/2013 16:22

Honeytea, I agree. Lots of posts on here re having children with unsuitable partners, no job, already stretched to the limit and many people will wonder, even if to themselves, why add to that. If you choose to have x number of children then dont moan about schools asking for money, housework etc.

Why is it smug to think the question? It doesnt mean the person thinking it is in a perfect place but just looking at the situation and wondering what on earth led them to make such a decision.

specialsubject · 13/01/2013 16:34

obviously kids cannot be put back!! (otherwise none of us would be here..)

obviously situations change, and the handsome prince can turn out to be a frog AFTER the kids are conceived. It's when he's a frog long beforehand that I struggle to understand.

ditto when there's not enough money and yet still more children arrive.

So I wonder, and sometimes question. Which IS allowed.

Maryz · 13/01/2013 16:34

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Theicingontop · 13/01/2013 16:36

YANBU, but I often think it when the OH was an established drug addict before the conception of their children. You are right, there's no point to asking it. Best left unsaid imo.

honeytea · 13/01/2013 16:37

Me and my db do have productive lives, I don't wish we were not born I think my mum would have had an easier life if she had had children in an easier situation.

I see moaning about a self made situation a little like moaning about a hangover.

I don't think people shouldn't have children if they have a rubbish situation I just think they shouldn't complain about it.