to think MN shouldn't support boots co-advertising newborn bottle sets and "follow on" milk

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when there's a national campaign on to promote BF?

Presumably this advert passes the letter of the law regarding the non-advertising/non-special offers on formula for new born's but it defies the spirit in every way possible.

AIBU to expect a little more social responsibility from MN?

Your posts are exactly the sort of thing that polarises this discussion and leads to women feeling attacked for their choices.

Its not very nice.

I had pnd due to bfing

So breastfeeding causes PND?

And to those reporting me, I rather thought MN was about free speech and open debate. This is AIBU not relationships.

Pretty hair clip, you are going way too far. Good for you that you can breastfeed and fight your illness, but not everyone can.

Who needs excuses - ff can be a lot easier and more enjoyable for the mum. I mix fed my second child after she was hospitalised for weight loss at 13 days old and it was fantastic compared with the months of suffering with my first child who also lost weight on breast milk but clung to the 9th centile until he could finally eat food and have enough sustenance to satisfy him.

It certainly did in my case.

Can't people just understand that for some it's just not possible? :( that there are certain circumstances and illnesses and medication that shock horror mean that it isn't actually the best thing for baby! Not feeding baby at all is neglectful. People just need to accept That people make a choice that is best for their family.

I'm pretty sure most pregnant mums get pro-breastfeeding advice from Midwifes to enable them to make an informed choice. Lets face it, even if it wasn't advertised we would all know it was there - I doubt very much anyone would choose to do it because they saw an advert!

At the end of the day it IS legal to advertise it, the powers that be clearly don't think it affects BF rates so get over it!

My personal opinion is that BF isn't very widely portrayed on tv programmes such as eastenders etc, that might help. But at the end of the day we each have a personal choice. I managed it with both DC's for 8 weeks and 14 weeks but it was bloody hard work.

I ff my first, and will ff my second because I don't want to get pnd - I have had a shitty life and I do not want to be depressed again. I prefer ff, it's legal and my son is in rude health, sleeps well, eats brilliantly at 1yo and feeds milk on demand.

Best just ignore - I don't think anyone agrees with this POV whatever their position.

Thanks people, this has mostly been a decent thread. I often disagree on threads like this, but mostly the pro bf posters have the very best intentions, ie health of babies, and support for mothers. It's only one or two who come out with hateful shit like hairclips has.

DS is a big, gorgeous, healthy toddler btw, and the apple of everybody's eye! I get so many compliments. Looking back my feeding issues seem almost laughable now, so tiny when compared to the love and care we give him. But when you're in that newborn madness - well, you all know about that.

A baby is better off formula fed with a mentally well mother

You can recover from PND whilst BFing. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Errr no in my case bfing caused pnd,I stopped and the pnd went away.

I think bf-ing can trigger pnd yes

I know what you mean Morris.

Glad your DS is doing well!

ff can be a lot easier and more enjoyable for the mum

Why is there an assumption that the mother's needs should be paramount?

For you, perhaps.
Other people are telling you differently. Listen. You might learn something.

And pretty I had horrific PND with DD because of BF - because I was up ALL night feeding for 4 weeks. she was losing weight, I was stressed & exhausted. we were all a whole lot happier on formula. So yes - the pressure of bf can cause PND. It doesn't work the same for everyone. Very narrow minded way to look at things, and makes me sad too.

PrettyHairClips - are you someone who struggles to empathise with others? You were able to recover whilst bf-ing, so you are unable to imagine someone else having a different experience to you. All aspects of parenting are v personal, I hop you don't lecture people irl

It's pointless. Without point!

Morris. I know my 3 are 9,9 and 8 believe me you don't give a single thought at this stage re what they were fed in the first few weeks,not a thought.

When you get to this stage you do laugh re some of the things you payed waaaaay too much attention to in the early days.

Repeat the mantra- it's a marathon and not a sprint.

Because there is little to suggest that a baby will have any different life whether ff or bf.

Totally without point

I agree ignore is best

Nothing to be gained by engaging :(

Why is it so offensive to put babies before adult women??