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to be disgusted and angry? RAGE RAGE RAGE (Rape related, may trigger)

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LoopsInHoops · 08/01/2013 14:23

You may have heard about the Steubenville rape cover-up in Ohio that was uncovered by hacking group, Anonymous?

I read a few things about it, but hadn't read the hacking group's own account. here it is

I am absolutely disgusted at the level of deceit and evil in one small town.

The poor girl was drugged by a group (having had their coache's permission) then raped by loads of them. And now there are videos floating around the internet, not only of these horrible creatures (most of whom haven't been charged, the police having deleted the incriminating evidence), but also of one admitting to raping her and all his friends finding it absolutely fucking hilarious. here, grim watching, not for the sensitive (like me)

AIBU to have had no idea that the system in a western country can be so utterly fucked up as to allow this behaviour on account of school/sporting popularity? It is so fucking wrong. Angry

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Flatbread · 09/01/2013 15:39

Booyhoo,

I hope if the Feds get involved and more people are arrested. That awful sheriff and coach, her exbf, the guy(s) who filmed it and the monster on the video ought to rot in jail their whole lives.

It seems anon is threatening to make life difficult for all those involved. I do hope they can carry it through, if the justice system fails.

loopylou6 · 09/01/2013 15:44

Ok. How about we en masse email BBC? David Cameron? Altho not sure he'd be bothered. We need to kick up a fuss and force people to take notice of this.

Booyhoo · 09/01/2013 15:44

are feds = FBI? is it likely they would be involved with this?

Booyhoo · 09/01/2013 15:47

yes loopy, i think we need to catch more MNers tbh though. i'm surprised at how little (it is an 8 page thread but mostly the same posters) response this has had. is there a good source i could link to on FB? i googled but not sure which sources are reliable/unbiased/(unDM)

loopylou6 · 09/01/2013 15:47

BBC

5madthings · 09/01/2013 15:48

Should put something in chat? I noticed there was a thread in 'in the news' and it was largely ignored :(

loopylou6 · 09/01/2013 15:49

I'm not sure, do you mean sharing this on fb? We could start a new thread asking for help from mnetters, then press the 'recommend to fb' button at the top? Confused

loopylou6 · 09/01/2013 15:52

Yes 5, I think a new thread in chat would be a good start, that way we know if many of us want to help. We best be careful with the title tho incase the more vulnerable of us read it and brings back bad memories.

loopylou6 · 09/01/2013 15:53

Loops, would you like to start the thread?

Booyhoo · 09/01/2013 15:55

yes a new thread would be a good idea i think. i was also looking for a link i can put on my own fb page to create a bit more awareness. no-one is talking about this in RL.

definitley need a trigger warning in the title for new thread.

5madthings · 09/01/2013 15:55

Yes thread in chat, link to fb and try and get it in active convos etc.

EllenParsons · 09/01/2013 15:56

I'm also surprised how relatively little coverage this story has got in the uk. I have been following it in the American media because I am always checking gawker and read a few American papers... But I had not realised that it had been completely ignored by the bcc. Bizarre and not right. The whole thing stinks and I can't believe the boy in the video has the audacity to even talk about how HIS life is ruined (DM article) when he has shown utter contempt for other human lives like that of the 16 year old girl.

The whole thing just makes me so angry.

EllenParsons · 09/01/2013 15:58

BBC not bcc - autocorrect

loopylou6 · 09/01/2013 16:04

Boo, I've just put the link on my Facebook page, if you click the link in the OP, you're able to share the page.

ParsingFancy · 09/01/2013 16:04

Getting on thread so I can follow any suggestions. Thank you for flagging this, I knew nothing till this thread.

Disgraceful that this isn't being covered by UK media - especially after what's happening in India.

That sounds like I'm more upset by the lack of media coverage than by the assault. I'm not. But the behaviour of the adults and now the media goes a long way to explain how the assault could take place.

Nancy66 · 09/01/2013 16:06

this is nothing to do with the UK government though.

You wouldn't expect Obama to get involved with a crime that happened/was covered up in the Uk unless it directly affected US citizens.

EllenParsons · 09/01/2013 16:11

Nancy, I don't think anyone is expecting uk gov to get involved? Just simply expecting it to be covered as it is an important news story

loopylou6 · 09/01/2013 16:11

You're a journo Nancy, what do you suggest on getting this story out there?

Thistledew · 09/01/2013 16:12

Unfortunately, this sort of behaviour is not new, is not unique, and is not something that happens just in other countries. Similar incidents happen to thousands of children, predominantly girls but some boys too, every year in the UK.

If you have a stomach for it, follow the links on the Children's Commissioner's website to the - CSEGG Inquiry Interim Report - November 2012 and - University of Bedfordshire - Sexual violence in gangs - Interim findings - November 2012.

The forward to the Interim Report quotes:

"Sexual exploitation is a curious term, for it runs the risk of glossing over the reality of what is done to children.
The reality is that each year thousands of children in England are raped and abused from as young as 11 years by people seeking to humiliate, violate and control them and the impact on their lives is often devastating.
This report, coming at the end of the first year of this Inquiry into the sexual exploitation of children in gangs and groups, has uncovered for the first time the extent to which children in England are being sexually exploited. We publish the number of known victims over a set period of time but can say with certainty that our figures are an undercounting of the true scale of this form of abuse. We know that because, although many agencies and organisations responded to our request for information and data, there were some notable gaps, with a few local authorities failing to do so. Furthermore, we know that children are sexually exploited in contexts other than in gangs and groups, including by lone perpetrators. Evidence about those children is not included in this report.
During the course of this Inquiry we have heard from young people who have been raped in the most unbearable ways. These have included children who have been abducted, trafficked, beaten and threatened after being drawn into a web of sexual violence by promises of love and others who have suffered in silence for years as they are casually and routinely raped by the boys in their neighbourhoods ? as they come out of school, as they walk to the shops, as they play in their local park."

It seems that it is easier to turn a blind eye to why this sort of thing is an every day occurrence, rather than to ask hard questions about why it is so prevalent in our society.

Booyhoo · 09/01/2013 16:13

thanks loopy.

Thistledew · 09/01/2013 16:13

Sorry, the second two links don't work, but if you follow the first link you will find the reports on the right hand side of the page, and they will open directly into PDFs.

Nancy66 · 09/01/2013 16:18

the story is being covered.

Booyhoo · 09/01/2013 16:20

forgive my ignorance but how do i share that on fb from the article? i have been able to log in through my fb to leave a comment under it but i cant see how to share it on fb.

LoopsInHoops · 09/01/2013 16:20

Sorry, been away from computer.

What is hoped to be achieved? Awareness? Greater media coverage? International involvement? A mass sign-up to Anonymous? Petition signing? That needs to be decided really before a new thread IMO.

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