For telling 11 year old dd she can't come with us to see Les Mis?

[Picturesinthefirelight]

She turned 11 recently, still in primary school. Doesn't know about sex and stuff yet

From reading an American guide for parents website it seems the film shows fantine selling herself in a bit more detail (apparently it shows the man lowering her top, thrusting then leaving after paying)

Dd has friends at school who have been to see 12a films and indeed we have let her watch certain 12 dvd's (hairspray, Star Wars Harry potter etc)

Am I being a prude?

[ripsishere]

To go back to the original question.
I'll let you know what it's like. I've an 111.6 DD, we were going to see that yesterday, but didn't. Since it's the only thing showing at the cinema with easiest parking apart from Malay/Chinese films it is a no brainer.
I am not keen, I still remember the disappointment and confusion I felt when Evita didn't have a single word of spoken dialogue.
I think my DD would get a bit restless. It's very long.

[FreshLeticia]

Your DD is having a lucky escape, Les Mis is exactly what it says on the tin-fucking miserable. Take her to see a feelgood film FFS

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FRESH

[BalthierBunansa]

ripsishere!? A 111.6 DD? How old are you?

[snowtunesgirl]

ripsishere, not true. Evita says instead of sings: Yes, oh yes in reply to Peron's question are you on your own.

And what did you expect? It's a throughsung musical.

[Picturesinthefirelight]

Evita not a favourite. In fact I can take or leave most ALW.

[snowtunesgirl]

Sunset is pretty good though as is By Jeeves but then the latter has a script by Ayckbourn.

[ZZZenAgain]

that is so interesting about the changes in female voices wrt puberty. Dd is 12 and has started singing lessons. I am wondering now if this is a bad time to do it after reading that link. What does your dh think about it OP? Does he prefer to wait till they are about 15 or 16?

[ZZZenAgain]

also can anyone explain to me why you cannot talk about altos at this age? According to the article girls voices are either light or rich soprano but not alto. I don't understand this because from the very first words my toddler spoke even I could tell straight off her speaking voice was alto. So is a speaking voice alto but the singing voice different - rich soprano then presumably.

Obviously I know nothing about singing, can anyone explain it?

[Picturesinthefirelight]

No it's fine to start lessons at 12. He prefers post 16 purely because he woks best with that age group (like done teachers work best with younger children) and he works in a very technical way with serious vocational students mostly (often dancers who are training full time)

The main thing in my mind is that some girls lose confidence at this age because these changes/ loss of range make them think they are rubbish. Some girls sail through it, others take longer.

[Picturesinthefirelight]

When speaking or singing in "speech quality" your larynx is set up in a different way than when dinging in for example "opera quality". If you think about it it makes sense something has to be different to make the different sounds

We all have an " attractor" set up that feels most natural to us it doesn't mean that we can't learn to make changes to access a higher range or different vocal quality.

[ZZZenAgain]

I see, thank you very much , that was very helpful.