For telling 11 year old dd she can't come with us to see Les Mis?

[Picturesinthefirelight]

She turned 11 recently, still in primary school. Doesn't know about sex and stuff yet

From reading an American guide for parents website it seems the film shows fantine selling herself in a bit more detail (apparently it shows the man lowering her top, thrusting then leaving after paying)

Dd has friends at school who have been to see 12a films and indeed we have let her watch certain 12 dvd's (hairspray, Star Wars Harry potter etc)

Am I being a prude?

[brighteyedandbushytailed]

Pictures, how much older is " a little"?

[Soopermum1]

I've seen the film (perks of my job) and I wouldn't recommend for your daughter. it's very gritty re the prostitution and your daughter would definitely have questions afterwards.

it's an amazing film, though so book a babysitter and go.

dh wanted to take our son, who is rather streetwise, but I said no. D's has been to see lots of 12a films but this one is def not for him.

[AmberSocks]

op if you dont think the film is appropriate then dont take her simple as.

I dont have an 11 yr old my daughter is 3 so i havenoidea how i would feel,but i imagine i would go with my gut instinct whatever that is.

[hobnobsaremyfavourite]

I have spent a lifetime dealing with the consequences of a parent like the op :(
OP you are doing your daughter a huge disservice.

[HeartsTrumpDiamonds]

Jessie I know what you mean about the "relentless close-up filming" - a lot of it showed some brilliant acting, but it did make me a bit dizzy sometimes. There are a lot of comments about it. Apparently it is one of the trademarks of this director, he really likes to get up close and personal with the actors.

Sorry you don't agree about Hugh Jackman... I love him so might be a bit biased about his voice....

[Viviennemary]

Turned 11 and doesn't know about sex. I am quite old fashioned but even I think it is past high time she did. You've let her watch Harry Potter. About that particular film though. I haven't seen it so of course it's hard to judge.

[JessieMcJessie]

Hearts, I should actually admit that I though HJ's acting was great, and he looked fab, but for me his voice just wasn't up to it and it came as a shock as I know he's an experienced musical theatre performer. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about though- if the poster whose husband is a voice coach is out there and he has now seen it, tell us what he thought!

It was a real relief for my ears when Marius and co came on and we got some lovely clear tenor voices. I was interested to see what another poster said about the barricade being built by the actors themselves, because it was surprisingly small after the huge stage version (the CGI ship at the start on the other hand was incredible).

[Picturesinthefirelight]

Dd has since initiated conversations with me about periods (dh speaking to her was a couple of years ago in response to something she said to him that she had overheard.

She has seen my tsmpons and she has talked to me about the body change stuff she has covered at school. I have said to her that as a serious dancer she will probably want to learn to be comfortable with them as soon as possible after she starts.

Dh has studied puberty in girls in relation to his job but only in do far as how the onset of puberty physically affects girls voices. (They undergo change in the same way as boys just no where near as marked as a boys voice 'breaking'. He can often tell by listening to a girl sing whether she has started or is likely to soon start her periods( though of course it doesn't always follow the same pattern)

She is desperate for a bra poor love but is very undeveloped.

[Picturesinthefirelight]

I'm interested to know who the vocal coaches were. I read somewhere that sacha baton Cohen went to the head of bounce at RAM (I'm guessing they mean Mary Hammond on the MT side). Fabulous teacher.

Wonder if they used any others.

[JessieMcJessie]

Ah, OP, I hadn't realised it was you whose DH was the vocal coach!

Re the bra, I remember asking my Mum if I could have one (all my schoolmates did, I was a late developer) and her instant response was a disparaging "but you've no got anything tae put in it!" I am sure you have been much more tactful

[Picturesinthefirelight]

We compromise with crop tops.

[GrumpySod]

This is a wind up. I can't believe someone thinks their NT 11yo shouldn't know the truth about how babies are made.

I reckon the girl knows about sixteen versions of the truth, and when she hears the real thing in school or from parents, she will spend ages trying to sift thru all the strange mistruths she's been told by peers over the years, to figure out where any true information lies; she'll be even more confused by not knowing which source to rely on. She knows for sure how much adults like to omit so she knows for sure how unreliable they are as complete info source. But don't worry, her friends will fill in the gaps. Like when they tell her "You can't get pregnant the first time, it's a fact, honest". And loads of other useful "facts" like that.

[OhlimpPricks]

Main vocal coach was Claire Underwood.

[countrykitten]

Your husband must be some sort of puberty diviner and will be able to pinpoint the very day she starts her periods by her tone of voice when she asks for breakfast one day. It's truly miraculous.

[cantspel]

But the start of a girls puberty is not when she gets her first period. Puberty would have started around 2 years before she has her first period.

Looks like you and your husband need to educate yourselves as well as your daughter.

[countrykitten]

I don't think that's going to happen as she does not need to know yet. Apparently.

[Picturesinthefirelight]

Don't be silly of course it's not that simplistic but there are indications. The book changing voices by Deirdre trundle is very good.

[hobnobsaremyfavourite]

I would educate yourself more accurately about puberty and worry less about voice changes.

[Picturesinthefirelight]

As knowing about the voice pays our bills he'll stick to that thanks.

[MajesticWhine]

Just catching up, and trying to fathom the meaning of an earlier post:
"There are several graphic and explicit scenes which would not be appropriate for an eleven year old. For example, there's mention of sausages made from cat."

Was this a joke?

[OhlimpPricks]

Sausages made from cats is all in context, just as soup made from bats and porridge made from nasty things in Roald Dahl film adaptations are.

[MajesticWhine]

I just can't imagine an 11 year old being remotely bothered by that, except perhaps saying "yuck" - I have a 10 and 12 year old, they would laugh in my face if I said that was unsuitable for them. I guess there are some much sweeter more sensitive children around.

[Picturesinthefirelight]

That poster was from America. I go on us based dance teacher websites. They make me look totally permissive. It seems they are a lot more conservative in the US.

For example they are horrified at people who allow children to listen to sings with the words ass or sexy in them.

[Picturesinthefirelight]

A parents film guide says they show thenardier chopping off a cats tail ( though not graphically. Maybe that's what they are referring to.

[BalthierBunansa]

Off topic, but, i'm just wondering about the people posting in this thread, what are your favourite musicals?