to think climete change is a pile of bollocks?

[moogy1a]

Summers in Britain to get colder and wetter

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20758780

earlier this year," oh no, they're going to get hotter and drier"
www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/9038988/Climate-change-will-make-UK-new-holiday-destination.html

climate change scients cherry pick the data they need to fit whatever political agenda they need it to fit.
If you start looking into reports, they are a huge mess of completely contradictory results.
I also like the way the term"global warming" has been quietly ditched in favour of climate change as it became increasingly obvious the world wasn't hotting up.

Rubbish. My mum is one of those scientists. Are you insulting my mum? ARE YOU?

Possibly. Is she one who's saying we're heating up or cooling down( or staying roughly the same?)

YABU to base any assumption that is based on scientific research on reports pulled from popular media outlets.

Also, global warming & climate change are not interchangeable terms.

Put simply for the cheap seats, it could go one of two ways.

1. We retain the Gulf Stream = warmer and wetter, sea levels rise

1. We lose the Gulf Stream and freeze to fucking death but the world overall gets warmer

Conclusion - we're fucked either way.

Hth

lots of researchers now say the average global temp. isn't increasing; some say it's decreasing, some say it's about the same it's always been.
I think there's a huge bandwagon of funding/politics happened in the last 20 years or so that lots of people have jumped on with little concrete evidence .

YABU to base any assumption that is based on scientific research on reports pulled from popular media outlets
they're reporting scintific conclusions, not doing the researcg themselves in the newspaper offices!

You do know that science and journalism are different things, right?

I have my own theory...based on fuck all but it's still my theory

I think everything goes full circle...weeks, months, seasons and extremes in climates.

The weather was probably like this thousands of years ago and now it's come full circle again.

Like I say...based on fuck all but there you go

I'm no expert, but I do think its very difficult to get a sense of context, when as far as I can tell, the planet has been changing dramatically since day one.

Having read Bill Bryson's 'A Brief History of Everything', and a few visits to the Natural History museum (pretty much the extent of my climate knowledge), it seems to me like planet Earth is as climatically bipolar as it is possible to get... swinging from one extreme to the other at random, over random time periods, wiping out masses of species in the process just for kicks.

I don't know why anyone thinks the weather should be predictable!

I worked in science research for many years. How it works is sciencey type people release statements to the press who print them.

Well what is the evidence from the UK in the last, say, 3 years. It's wet and fucking freezing most of the time....

Science though int it.

That's the point. People continually experiment/investigate and report back. It's ongoing, continual, therefore changing all the time.

Very often misrepresented in the media, thems the ones who cherry pick.

You cannot seriously dismiss climate change based on 2 media reports. I don't doubt there will be some political agenda at times but the research itself is not to blame it's how the findings are used.

I think you should ask the polar bears what they think of your "argument".

OP, you know you wrote 'climete' in your thread heading? It doesn't look great tbh.

I don't know enough about this to make any pronouncements other than to say that most of the leading climate scientists agree that the climate is changing.

I'm reading Mary Robinson's book at the moment and she writes very convincingly about the issues facing our planet - and we are not talking of polar bears.

I think too many people read half arsed articles in the press and base their opinions on that, rather than taking the time to research an issue properly.

if you want to read up on this I found this helpful. Am working my way through it.

they're reporting scintific conclusions, not doing the researcg themselves in the newspaper offices!

Well no. Speaking as a former sub-editor, it is highly likely that a press release has been cut and pasted into however many column's worth it'll fit. Which can lead to interesting but not necessarily scientifically valid conclusions.

Also, YABU in not recognising the difference between weather and climate.

The climate probably is changing just as it has always done. The Sahara was only created 4000 years ago and we're still apparantly in the last ice age. A couple of hundred years of burning coal is probably not the culprit this time round either!

I don't think it's a 'load of blocks' (are you my dad?) but the world is constantly changing.
if it didn't change we wouldn't be here and dinosaurs would still be roaming about.
but.
it is changing and soon it will eat itself and US with it.
The poor old polar bears will either adapt. or die.
Once upon a time there were no polar bears. Soon there may be no polar bears again.
I don't think that's bollocks.
Some people dedicate their lives to working out how we can stop sucking it all up.
Unfortunately not enough people listen. Or care.

They said that if the Gulf Stream shifts then we'll get a wetter / colder climate didn't they. IMO it's already happened.

Oh god , I just used weather and climate as interchangeable. Its horrible when you are the source of your own annoyance!

Yes of course, the press never mis-represent scientific findings. Nor do they report bad science as fact. Ever*.

• I might not be telling the truth