Is this likely to happen? Benefit related.

[littlemisssarcastic]

And where would it end?? Is this just the start of a slippery slope ?

To create a fair system, the minimum wage needs upping so that those who do work benefit from working.

I'm all for anything which might help children who have shite parents and I do know a few, but this is very badly thought-out. In reality, it's totally impractical and will end up costing those who have less more, and big business will profit as per usual. perhaps it's quite well thought-out after all.

Maybe they should trial the scheme with other groups who are also subsidised by the tax-payer such as MPs and the Royal Family.

pumpkinsweetieMasPudding - thanks for that comment - it is interesting always that relatively wealthy people see drinking and restaurants and parties as justifyable and essential motivational and reward tools, yet a guy doing chammy-leather drying of car windscreens having a £1 can of special brew as a lazy evil money-grabbing degenerate..

Indeed 'naive' is vastly different to 'stupid cow'. One is evident from reading the posts, the other a childish attack with no basis

Note to ghostship.
If you are SACKED you cannot claim jsa. I believe very few people CHOOSE to live of benefits.
Jsa isn't much money, it is around £51 pp per week, and if childless that is all you get, plus rent.
Doesn't sound so inviting now does it... Imagine paying bills & eating on just £204 a month

I'm certainly against rich companies like Tesco's paying low wages knowing that a lot of their workers will be subsidised by tax credits. This is something that does need addressing.

stinks doesn't it LadyBeagle

Also it is completely possible that a highly productive, intelligent, conformist worker worth £40K in a theoretical market can be on the dole. Until employers sort out the fact that they just don't find the best workers because they do silly things like recruit only from 5 of the 'top' universities in the country and just put an ad in the job centre then we will never have a workplace that is staffed with the best and we will always have good employees on the dole.

This is a classic case of divide and conquer. Get the proletariat to argue among themselves whilst shafting all of them. Instead of taking vitriol against someone getting £70 a week on jsa, shouldn't we be looking at the multi £billion companies paying peanuts in tax or the multi millionaires paying peanuts in tax through tax loopholes? Nope lets just keep persecuting the poorest and most vulnerable in our society.

Oh and if you restrict access to alcohol and cigarettes you also reduce tax revenue from them. And people will just ship them in illegally from the continent and sell them on the black market.

And for the 'get a job' brigade... Where are the jobs? All the seasonal retail ones have been swallowed up by Workfare and in other areas there can be 2-400 applicants per job advertised!

People on benefits aren't the only ones who are struggling at the moment
Who's picking your pockets Freddo?

It isn't people on benefits, because the money they spend, is spent usually in the real economy. The biggest net beneficiaries of all welfare payments are bankers and corporations. We have them to blame for impoverishing workers and the need to shrink the state. Since 1970 the money has all been moving in one direction. In the last 30 years we have seen the biggest and fastest consolidation of wealth and social power in top 10% than at any other time in economic history. If you have lost your wallet, you are looking in the wrong places.

This thread was so depressing to begin with.
But applause for the MN massive that have come on here.
I don't feel as shit as I did, I honestly thought that as a benefit scrounger, I'd be a loser on this one.
Love you all

benefit claimants are Cameron's Jews - hate to say it like that but it's true - every right wing Gov needs scapegoats to allow them to attack more and more people and destroy more and more services

...think 'First they cam for the Jews ...'

came ffs!

Too right Notso.

here

gordy

I thought the 'cam' was very apt !

Exactly Glitter-Where are all these jobs?
My dh was made redundant nearly 3 months ago, he has applied for around 80 jobs-guess what he has had ONE interview so far, which he succeeded in getting the job, but unfortunetly it turned out to be very temporary. Straight away they cut all our benefits except tx, so until january we are living of fuck all and even then there is no promise of a permanent job.
He has worked since he left school, and let me tell you living off benefits isn't fun. I cannot wait until him or i manage to get a job, but too many people are applying for the the little jobs available.

I guess so

LadyBeagleBaublesandBells, we are all in this together, except the nasty party and their corporate sponsors.