Is this likely to happen? Benefit related.

[littlemisssarcastic]

And where would it end?? Is this just the start of a slippery slope ?

Usual, why is it impossible for you to fathom that there ARE a few people on benefits who do abuse them?
Even if they are a relatively small number, they do exist.

And I thought you'd hidden the thread

Gordy - I would be financially better off if I left my job and had a child. So I'm not misinterpreting anything, it is the facts.

but not if that child is disabled.

so why is it more economical for parents with young children to work, when staying home cliaming benefits saves to government £51.50

Because those parents will be earning and contributing, not just taking out. And they will be highly likely to have a higher earning potential when their children are no longer young than they would have done if they had done nothing except parent.

Ghosty, if you are indeed impoverished and yet you work, rather than attack those on benefits......join a union and take it up with your boss
When have I said I'm impoverished?
I'm on minimum wage. My employers are doing nothing wrong in the eyes of the law. And right now I'm happy to have a job.

Ghost i am proud that i work too. However i also have to claim benefits because my 8 hour a week job wont support me & my child.

Where i am there are no other jobs than pitiful hours like i have. You should think twice about judging because you never know where you will end up.

When i had my dc i was married & my husband and i were both working. Out of the blue he left me. Now i am a single mother doing what i can to support my dc.

due to my cheating exH i ended up on jsa at the begining of this year my incomings and outgoings on jsa and now im at work are and were
JSA income with hb ctb £720 working wages and wtc £800 a month OUTGOINGS OUTGOINGS
RENT £400 month RENT £400 a month
CTax £0 Ctax £83 month
water rates £28 month water rates £28 month
TV licence £15 month TV licence £15 month
sky till i cancelled contract £40 month BB + phone £23 month
Gas £40 month Gas winter £60 month
electric £30 month Electric £30 month
before food £543 per month out before food £657 per month out
so on benefits i had £177 a month for food clothes etc working i have £143 a month for food, clothes etc i am actually worse off working than i was on benefits thats what this country is all about now

Ah yes, my dc's bring in so much money to the household - what with all the chimney sweeping they do!

No you wouldn't , maybe if you quit your job and had between 6 or 7 kids .. But then you have feed , clothe and care for them so even then you would not be better off would you.

shit happens - exactly - I never claimed CTC until my husband of 10 years walked out for another woman leaving me on Mat leave with 3 kids under 8 - even working I need TC to survive

I didn't see it coming, it's knocked me sideways

but even when married to a self made man worth a lot of money I never ever begrudged those in need the benefits they where entitled to

Sockreturningpixie my advice is to make written statements and complaints on her behalf - a JCP employee told me direct (and I know from experience) that they will ignore all complaints except written ones, because they HAVE to respond to written ones, and within a timescale.

Also one thing to note is that JSA employees will often lie, exaggerate and deliberately put false statements on forms - in fact some of the standard forms have lies on that will make tribunals difficult, but can be challenged beforehand.

Eg the form for sanction had 'we notified the claimant had to attend on ' this means 'the claimant should sort of know because kind of we said every two weeks' but it reads as though a written instruction was given to attend on that specific date.

It is ALWAYS worth asking for paperwork and sanctioning forms - they are often reluctant to give them stating spurious ' we can't give names out and the person making that statement is named' - simply ask calmly for them to obscure the name and give you the document.

ALWAYS write a complaint and explanation of why whatever cause the sanction to be applied wasn't justified.

usualsuspect3 decent people don't want poor people to have to face shit like this.
it is only a very small minority on mn who do. very very small..........

Ghosty, pride comes before a fall. What will you do in Wigan, if ever you lose your job?

Anyway I can't see what their is to be proud about if you are being exploited for less than the amount of money the government deems is necessary to live on. Is it not foolish to continue to work for a pittance, pride won't feed your belly.

You know what? Think it was usual earlier who said about the lumping in... Actually that's right.

In a way I've swallowed some of that deserving/undeserving shite the govt are spewing.

Mind you Ed Balls is still banging on about the low earning families on top ups that they're going to help, yet he 's not bothered to respond to my email I sent him about the circs of carers. But that's by the by.

I do generally talk about the area I know which is obviously disability/carer legislation, but that doesn't mean I don't see, know about or care about JSA sanction for spurious reasons, benefits caps and Workfare eroding the work available for job seekers and I do sign petitions etc and email about all of that too.

All of us on benefits are being demonised, doesn't matter what brought us here. Those deriders might do well to know that in 12 years I've gone from being a reasonably earning homeowner to being on carer benefits in social housing.

When I first started saying I could see why things went the way they did in 1930's Germany I was called hysterical. Some might still consider me to be so. But more and more in RL at least people are starting to see it.

^Happy your boyfriend helps you out though.
I know you are young and beautiful (from another thread) but shit happens^
What exactly is that emplying?! I managed without him and would again if I had to

Implying FFS

Because those parents will be earning and contributing, not just taking out.

well not really, i work PT as a domestic and i pay barely any tax, approx £30 per month.

Threesocks, "decent people don't want poor people......" So poor people can't also be decent??

I agree, the water is beginning to lap at the toes of the middle class, soon they will be up to their necks in it with those they are now being invited to despise.