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to think that this proves UKIP are just a bunch of morons?

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nightowlmostly · 18/12/2012 18:04

I have no time for UKIP at the best of times, and can't believe how well they are polling. Then I heard this on the news just now - Geoffrey Clark, a UKIP candidate in Kent, wants all foetuses that are found to have Downs Syndrome or Spina bifida to be compulsorily aborted. Link below to this guy's 'personal manifesto'.

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AIBU to think that this proves that UKIP are made up of a bunch of loons with mad ideas? The leadership are desperate to appear to be a reasonable mainstream party, just to the right of the tories, but it's clear to me that the majority of their members are ignorant, racist idiots.

I really find it hard to understand why anyone would vote for these people.

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TakingBackMonday · 18/12/2012 18:32

HE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED

UKIP in no way support his comments

InNeedOfBrandyButter · 18/12/2012 18:33

I would go so far as to say I wouldn't be friends or have someone in my house that voted ukip. They are jsut the "acceptable" face of the BNP IMO.

MoreBeta · 18/12/2012 18:34

This is the second post I have seen on this issue.

What this man has said is clearly NOT the official policy of UKIP but what one person thinks and it is an extreme view that hardly anyone agrees with.

For the record, I am seriously considering UKIP at the next election and I am getting sick and tired of the constant attempts to demonise the party as racist extremists.

Vagaceratops · 18/12/2012 18:35

But by the looks of it, it was updated on the 17th November, so it has stood for a month with no one in the party saying anything.

nightowlmostly · 18/12/2012 18:35

Well said InNeedOfBrandyButter!

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londonone · 18/12/2012 18:35

I know what the context is, I read the piece. That is why I thought the OP was being misleading

nightowlmostly · 18/12/2012 18:36

The thing is, it may not be the official party line, but the party seems to be full of people with very dubious views, and it can't be a coincidence, can it?!

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Glitterknickaz · 18/12/2012 18:36

No, but they do support congregate communities for learning disabled people.

InNeedOfBrandyButter · 18/12/2012 18:38

More like concentration camps for disabled people...

Vagaceratops · 18/12/2012 18:38

UKIP seem to spend a lot of their time doing damage limitation because their candidates are out of control.

Winston McKenzie was disowned after his homophobic comments, now this person.

TakingBackMonday · 18/12/2012 18:39

Don't mistake no one in the party reading his personal, not political manifesto for endorsement

Vagaceratops · 18/12/2012 18:39

I am baffled, but not surprised, that londonone seems to think that the OP is misleading.

londonone · 18/12/2012 18:51

Vaga - the Op is misleading. The guys views are bonkers at best but they are not as represented in the OP. there are so many mad ideas in that link I don't understand why the op would pick out an idea which , whilst vile, is specifically identified as not the view of UKIP or the individual. That's why the disclaimer is there.

londonone · 18/12/2012 18:52

Given the rest of his views it doesn't seem as if he is backward in coming forward.

soontobeburns · 18/12/2012 18:55

I work with LGBT youths and my best friend is transsexual etc so whilst I don't agree with this part of the policy of that I would vote UKIP if they ran in NI.

They are the only party to deal with economic and EU issued in a correct and precise manner. Btw in working class. (Though I would vote conservative too they also don't run in NI)

That should be my AIBU to be working class and on benefits yet Hate labour.

nightowlmostly · 18/12/2012 19:16

londonone I picked out the specific idea because it's what's been on the news all day and then I looked at the manifesto and read all the other stuff. I figured people would have heard the issue on the news and maybe have an opinion on it. Is that ok?

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londonone · 18/12/2012 19:23

Fair enough - I hadn't seen it on the news at all. Just out of interest why did you choose to state in your op that these were the guys views rather than topics for debate which is what the link actually says.

Orwellian · 18/12/2012 19:24

Hmmm. Presumably this is one UKIP member? How did you feel about Labour's Tony Blair lying about a war in which hundreds of thousands have died? Does he represent all Labour voters (as a liar and murderer)?

LimeLeafLizard · 18/12/2012 19:34

Can't find the bit you refer to in his 'manifesto' but I got fed up of reading it.

Repugnant stuff, he sounds like a Nazi.

Vagaceratops · 18/12/2012 19:35

Just out of interest why did you choose to state in your op that these were the guys views rather than topics for debate which is what the link actually says.

Because he only changed it today to add the bit about them being topics for debate.

londonone · 18/12/2012 19:37

How unfortunate for the OP that the document she linked to was altered within minutes of her posting!

nightowlmostly · 18/12/2012 19:39

I'm not a labour voter, and I marched against the war in Iraq. I believe Tony Blair should face trial for war crimes.

I'm not saying all UKIP voters think like this man does, I'm saying they should really find out about about the type of people they are voting for, as many of them hold abhorrent views. The official party line isn't much better either, as stated above, they would like to create ghettoes for disabled people to live in. There seems to be a theme emerging...

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londonone · 18/12/2012 19:40

Who do you vote for out of interest?

nightowlmostly · 18/12/2012 19:40

What's your beef londonone? You are being quite combative, it's not really necessary.

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nightowlmostly · 18/12/2012 19:41

You've asked me that very question before, and it's as irrelevant now as it was then, thanks for asking.

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