To leave baby sleeping outside in -3C ?

[Anothercuppatea]

he's in a few layers of normal clothes. A cost suit which I think has down in it. A fleece buggy cosytoes. And I just went out and put extra blanket on.

He seems to sleep better outdoors. But it is starting to get really cold. It's very frosty this morning.
I could take him into house, but he's likely to be woken by his big brother. And he's likely to get hot with so many layers on.

'Just a question: why is my local hospital so hot for the preemies if babies are "better" in the cold? I don't buy it..'

Because it would be pretty hard to monitor a baby wrapped in endless layers, it is hot so they can be pretty much naked bar a nappy, to allow easy access to all the tubes and whatnot.

However well wrapped up they are, they are still taking icy cold air into their lungs though aren't they?

Not if the picture of it being 22 degrees inside the pram is right. And the respiratory system is cunningly designed to heat and humidify air as it is inhaled.

Late to the thread but won't baby be warmer when moving in the pram so leaving him outside, static, isn't the same as doing the school run? Plus you have to do that, you don't have to leave your baby in the cold. He really needs to learn to sleep through normal noise and maybe your eldest needs to learn to be a bit quieter when the baby is sleeping.

I wouldn't put my guinea pigs outside now, I certainly wouldn't put a baby out and mine were 9 and 6 months at this time of year so a similar age to yours is now.

justfabulous The baby would if anything be colder in a moving pram than a static pram because of the wind. A baby is still in a pram no matter if it is moving or still.

JF: honeytea is right: the reason you are warmer when you are walking with the pram is because you're doing exercise. The baby in the pram isn't.

it fills me with horror to think of it. but what do i know?

i had a child that had the same issue!!!!!!! whenever i brought him in he would wake up and be so grumpy!!

i used to put him in his pram,in a snowsuit.a big blanket,hat and cosytoes and put the raincover over and leave him outside. As soon as he was alseep,i used to stealthily bring him into the kitchen and leave him at the back door,facing out but he was in the house! it worked for me and hes 5 now. loves the outdoors too!

I can't even believe your asked it! Of course your being unreasonable!!!!! My baby used to sleep better outside until I stopped giving in! Saying that she slept outside in summer with me with her not alone in bloody winter!!

piglettsmummy, OP's baby is right outside the kitchen window - probably closer to mum than a baby sleeping inside on a different level of a house from its mum.
She's keeping a very close eye.
We're all alone when in a deep sleep really.

DS was outside today and slept for 4 1/2 hours straight! We're in Denmark so totally standard childrearing.

Yeah I no she said he's was right out side the window read it after i had posted my comment. Tbh it mite be what other countries do but I think it's soo wrong! Who was lookin after the other child while she was constantly at the window watching the baby?? He's got to learn to sleep inside some time!

why would she be constantly staring at the sleeping baby, do people do that when the baby sleeps in another room/floor? I would guess she didn't leave the baby out on the street either, but in their own secure back yard.

Pigletsmummy "My baby used to sleep better outside until I stopped giving in!"

What did you stop giving in with?

Is it wrong that I'm enjoying a little chuckle at some of the pearl clenching hysteria on here?!

OP, my DS was the same - always slept better outside. He was a second child too and we were determined that he would have to get used to the noise of the first. 5 months later and he just couldn't sleep with the sudden loud noise that another child could make so we left him in the pram outside and bingo - he slept. I remember him sleeping in the snow - all bundled up with a raincover on of course. He was always lovely and warm when he came in from his nap and I kept a closer eye than I would have if he was in his cot because he was always right outside a window. He's nearly 6 now and the best sleeper of all my 3 - so certainly not created any long term sleep problems or inability to sleep through noise.

Just use your common sense, as long as he's warm and you keep a regular check then why on earth not?!

juule is that even a serious question?? Sarcasm is my second language il
Have you no

Am and educated by this thread. My mum and mil have always banged on about how I should put DS in the garden to nap from birth, me and DH were both 'No way José' about it and laugh about it, but according to you lot they're right. Amazing. Useful to know for next time around!

Ds1 was born in on a new year's in Canada. I'm quite tempted to print this thread out and post it on the wall of the local children's centre so that all the Canadians can chortle at the precious Brits. It's like a Little Britain sketch in 'ere.

I won't, lol, but -3?

-3?

With a snowsuit, blankets, cosy toes?

At 8 mos?

My poor children were marched around sleeping in the buggy down to about -20. For newborns we just chucked a blanket over the pram (ie to provide a bit of a cave). We called it 'putting the budgie to bed'.

I wouldn't leave 'em like that in case the blanket dropped and smothered the baby, obv, but most Canadian newborns do make it to school, despite spending a considerable period of their early life asleep in sub zero outdoors...

In Germany we left the first born outdoors (also January baby). We took her to all sorts of touristy delights in the sub zero and she happily slept her way around them.

Dd2 was a bit crap at the whole staying alive in the newborn period thing, and spent her time crashing away in scbu. It makes you aware of infant mortality, but it didn't stop us schlepping her outdoors in the cold in Scotland once she left the hospital.

-3.

Good job you all had babies in the UK.

I leave my eight month old in the porch in her buggy very often - she falls asleep on the school run and it means I get to have a cup of tea without being disturbed! I leave the front door open (yes, the house gets cold, but I quite like wearing jumpers) and I can see the pram from the sofa. As soon as she wakes up, I bring her in. A few days ago she slept for about three hours - I woke her up for a quick feed, and then stuck her straight back into the pram to go out again. It doesn't seem to have done her any harm, and she's never been noticeably cold when I've brought her in. Quite the opposite, in fact!

I don't understand why people are so shocked by it really - it's not like we're putting the poor little things outside wearing nothing but a nappy and a smear of Bepanthen!

All four of mine slept outside in all weathers. I did have a huge coach built silver cross pram. I just wrapped them up warmly and they always came in lovely and toasty warm. Newborn to when they gave up their daytime sleeps. They're all grown up now and all very healthy - they just aren't ill at all. (Although that's probably got more to do with inherited immune systems!)

Only read the OP but my concerns would be :

1 Animals - cats etc jumping on baby ( assuming he is sleeping in lie flat pram).

2 Anythning else happening to him - havent' there been cases of children unfortunately going missing from their own back gardens?

3 Baby waking and crying and you wouldn't hear from the house

4 Finally its just too cold - I'd hate to sleep outside

Is it just me that really loved those Scandinavian fur igloos, want one!!

DS slept much better outside but we couldn't leave him there as we lived in a flat, now in a house but he's bigger now.

I probably will leave the next one outside though as I do believe it's better than being in a stuffy house but we have <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=herqules&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&biw=1349&bih=585&tbm=isch&tbnid=q5Xpyt1OiuQU9M:&imgrefurl=okbabystrollers.com/Stroller-Herqules-Raptor-3-spin-Duo-Lift-t1276/&docid=GeEdlDjk2Wvk-M&imgurl=okbabystrollers.com/img/galery/kolyaska_herqules_raptor_3-spin__duo-lift_4.jpg&w=476&h=607&ei=X967UIC1KKLM0AXcpIB4&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1031&vpy=4&dur=1024&hovh=254&hovw=199&tx=99&ty=155&sig=104835922345262521154&page=1&tbnh=138&tbnw=108&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0,i:84" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this buggy/pram for DS and are trying to find the double for the next arriving, the hood can completely come over. No way would I leave a baby outside in the Cosatto!

OP, I would be more worried in your situation about overheating your baby than it being cold.

Madame I really want one as well but have searched and can't find one. :( Loved the bed covers on that Pittergarden site but can't see any prices, DS really needs one of them just now!

Piglettsmummy, are you deliberately posting like that to lend your support to sub zero snoozing in an amusing reverse psychology manner? If not, you might want to rethink your methods of persuasion...

Aye, that bloody winter.