to think that mumsnet should be a website for all mums regardless

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of literacy and the way they speak/type and should be welcoming to everyone? I cant fucking stand this perceived superiority over certain posters that use text speak, use of hun, lol, x's etc or the suggestion that they are somehow unsuitable for this forum and should bugger off to the other one.

As as for the fucking grammer police, fuck the fuck off. Just because someone maybe didn't use capitals, or misspelt a word, or hasn't posted perfect english, doesn't open their post to ridicule.

YABU. Standards, we have them.

Xxx

No, YABU.
Not everyone can read 'Text speak'.

I dnt c da issue tbh so I iz wid ya on dat one

Sorry, but using text speak does open someone up to ridicule in my opinion.

Typos, misspellings, incorrect grammar or generally bad English is fine IMO. We all make mistakes and being crap at English doesn't say anything bad about a person.

But using text speak, especially using 'u' instead of typing 'you', is likely to make me think less of that person.

Nope YABU.

Text speak is really difficult to read. Many forums ban it.

yabu
no one should use text speak.
but as for grammer and stuff like that...
yanbu

U iz all totes neg init

I can't read it, I'm sorry. I have friends who write like that on FB and I have to get ds to translate it for me as it makes my head explode.

Write how you wish, if you want me to reply then I need to be able to read it. I'll just get bored and abandon the thread otherwise.

Just adding that I don't have an issue with spelling or grammar errors but if your post is difficult to read e.g. one long paragraph with no full stops, I might point that out as a helpful hint.

Poor grammar is readable though (sorry, I should have mentioned), as are spelling mistakes. I'm the last one to say they are perfect, and not everyone has these skills. I wouldn't point them out though, that's just rude.

I personally cannot stand text speak, or hun or lolz or bubz or lil man or lil princess or the stupid inexplicable use of x's after each bloody post. Drives me mad. That's just me and that's why I post here and not on the other one.

However I haven't seen anybody suggest that anyone who DOES use that kind of 'speak' should fuck off. A bit of lighthearted teasing maybe but the same level of teasing applies to naice middle class problem type threads.

Yanbu and yabu.

If somebody posts for help, but don't have perfect grammar, then it's not acceptable that they are picked up on their writing style. However, I would say that it's very infrequent that this is the case, and when it does happen the pedantic posters get sat on fairly quickly.

However, if someone is being a cunt, then it's fair dos.

Textspeak is extremely hard to read especially if you are old like me. Other things like not using "hun" and "lol" are just MN conventions as far as I see it. Some users do 'lol'. I just instead unless I've actually 'lolled'.

I kind of agree that sometimes it can go a bit far, typing often gives an error or two, but I cannot abide text speak I make spelling errors and If I was in mid rant or upset it is not helpful to have someone ignore the issue at hand and just comment on your spelling.

Has someone upset you OP?

ur bn silE. nt every1 cn undrst& it wen ppl wrt lk dis. It's nt hrd 2 + a few mor chars 2 yr wrds 2 makeem ez 2 read.

hth

I agree that if someone makes one or two spelling/grammar mistakes, people shouldn't leap on it as though it renders their point invalid. However, a whole string of misspelled words can be very hard to read, and sometimes simply do not make sense.

As for hun, xx, etc, that's not a literacy issue, it's just annoying and unnecessary.

Will also add that I don't have a problem with bad grammar. I don't think my grammar is very good but I do my best!

YABU, if only because you have told me that I am no longer welcome on your forum as my husband and I have not yet managed to procreate.

Text speak is unacceptable.

However people piss me off ridiculing others spelling in a debate. It's a low form of mockery, that's unacceptable.

Not to mention the person could be dyslexic.

worra ur txt speak iz wel gud!

What Worra said is an excellent example of why text speak is so bloody ridiculous. I had to read each "word" aloud just to try and understand what she was saying!

But this is an international forum, some abbrevations or text speak may be really hard to understand if English isn't your first language.

But I agree with you about the grammar police the bastards some people are also dyslexic so bear that in mind next time you start nit picking over petty spelling mistakes.

I can't read text speak but realise that might be my problem. If I send a text, I do it using full words and would do indented paragraphs if I could.

I think pulling posters up on grammar though is annoying. Try having a conversation with someone in RL where they are constantly correcting the way you speak.

If you can't be bothered to write a legible post why should people bother reading it? Everyone makes spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. The odd typo is accepted. It's only the extremes that are picked up on.

The posts full of text speak and truly atrocious spelling are often trolls playing a part.