Too much time in playpen for toddler?

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This morning DS 17 months woke up at 6am. I got up bf him and put him in the playpen. It is one of those extra large, hexagonal playpens.

Around 6.15 I gave him some water and changed his nappy. Then I went back to bed after making sure the playpen had only safe toys and the baby monitor was plugged in.

I fell asleep and woke up at 8.30. I went out to see DS and he was happily playing with this toys. He is very into small manipulative puzzles, shape boxes, stacking cups etc at the moment and he was busy playing with these.

He had been in the playpen for nearly 2.5 hours! Is this too long? Is there a problem that he plays happliy for this length of time by himself?

Most days I have a nap during the day for an hour or so and DS spends this time in the playpen but I have never left him for 2.5 hours before.

What do you think about this?

Everyone may be 'educated', but whether you are 'educated well' or 'well educated' is relative.

My God you have a very well behaved toddler! That aside I'm far too neurotic to ever do this. I'd never sleep whilst DS was awake. Also a play pen for a 17mo? Isn't he a bit old for that?

Yes that long in a playpen is wrong
Yes napping whilst he is in another room on his own is wrong

"As far as Education is concerned you either have one or you don't there is nothing relative about it"

It is completely relative, if it wasn't there wouldn't be levels.

By your own use of the term "well educated" you were implying that your education is in some way superior to someone who has not been educated to the same dubious standard as you. If you "either have one or you don't" then you can't be "well educated" - you're either educated or you aren't.

I think you'll find that's what's known as being hoist by your own petard...

I'm sure that as you are "well educated" you will know what that means. But then I may be wrong as I assumed that people who purport to being well educated would know that education is not a proper noun and does not therefore require a capital 'E'.

This is getting tedious now - you claim you are well educated, it's apparent you aren't as well educated as you would like to think you are. You prove it with every post. Whilst pointing it out has been fun, it's now getting a little sad to see you continuously asserting this delusion and showing yourself up in the process.

New paragraph so this is not addressed directly to you Goldenbear:

I am aware that it is not polite to comment on eroneous grammar, and normally I would not do it, but this time I felt it was necessary .

Maryz - thank you for your posts. I am not offended though - just slightly bemused that someone that ill-informed chooses to keep making themselves look stupid whilst claiming to be "well educated".

You have to value someone's opinion to be bothered by it. I can't value the opinion of someone who can't form a valid argument to support their standpoint and is unnecessarily rude and offensive to other people.

Arf at hoist by your own petard., how many years have you been waiting for the perfect opportunity to use that one!

Glad none of this crap has upset you though Coola, there were some seriously low blows aimed at you. No one in their right mind would have anything but respect for what you did.

Randall - I love that phrase! I try to use it as often as possible, although granted that tends to be once a year or so .

As for the rest - I guess I'm more secure and educated than she who I can't be arsed to name would have liked me to be. I know I did what was right for DN - and that's all that matters to me, not the half-baked opinions of some crazy randomer on the internet.

You first used the term, 'well educated' to make some offensive point about me. I responded to that point by using the same term.

FYI, the capital E for education was a mistake. Equally, I'm not interested in taking advice on correct grammar usage from someone who uses the dash like it's going out of fashion. Please reflect some clarity of thought with your writing by occasionally throwing in a comma or a full stop. Your posts are chaotic and annoying to read.

'low blows'? Are you meaning the ones aimed at me; the 'crazy' accusations, a bit of name calling (eg. Stupid and idiot) and the gloriously offensive stuff about my mother?

Goodness Choola, I hope you don't go anywhere near those suffering with MH problems in your Professional role. You do realise that using words such as 'crazy' and 'stupid' to insult someone is highly offensive in 2012 don't you?

What I actually said, in response to your many boring stealth boast references to your MA was that you "purport to be well educated".

You then replied with "I don't purport, I am well educated." (Emphasis added.)

The point is you used it in a statement - and then made another statement that directly contradicted it. It doesn't matter that I used it first (But Muuuuuum so and so did it first so it's not MY fault) it matters that you used it, because you were the one who then contradicted your own statement.

You don't know much about the correct use of dashes either do you. They serve to set off part of a text, to emphasise the set off text. Which is how I have used them.

"Occasionally throw in a comma or a full stop". Yet again a stupid statement. Full stops and commas all present and correct - so the statement is a flawed attempt to have a dig - resulting in yet another snigger at your ineptitude and grasping at straws to try to make yourself look clever.

I'm sorry I'm not impressed by your MA - but then I don't expect people to be impressed by my qualifications hence why I don't feel the need to repeatedly refer to them.

Goodnight - it's been fun for me anyway.

Personal versus professional again. I can say what I want in my personal life as long as I remain professional at work.

This isn't work - it's an anonymous internet forum.

Do you always need everything explained to you three times?

Seriously, stop grasping at straws, it's tiresome and only serves to make you look desperate.

Actually, I think it matters quite a lot that you use offensive name calling that WAS an acceptable way to describe someone with MH issues in the past. 'Batshitcrazy' is a particularly aggressive verbal insult. Private and professional views are not always inseparable in my view. That you can be so flippant in using these prejudiced insults demonstrates an underlying disregard for those with serious mental health issues. I find that particularly worrying when you work for SS.

The 'purport' issue is an argument in semantics that I can't be bothered to go into.

I didn't say your use of the dash was grammatically incorrect, I said you over use it. There are more appropriate forms of pronunciation you could use in replace of the dash that you are so liberal with. It reads like you have a very poor concentration span.

Ok, I'm sure I'm going to get flamed and called all sorts of interesting names but I'm actually starting to feel concerned for you Golden.

Do you suffer from any mental health issues at all?

I'm quite sure you'll either completely ignore me or unleash a barrage of insults but its actually a genuine question.

The reason I ask is because your posts are just so out of proportion and overly aggressive that they have gone beyond annoying and into concerning.

Ok, massive x-post.

I really think you should step away from the thread now.

I'm actually genuinely concerned for you.

we all have a different attitude to risk.

i actually fail to see the difference between leaving a child in a play pen with soft floor/a few toys to play with and leaving a few toys in their cot in the hope that they find them and let parents get some extra sleep.

op knew that if child cried, she would have woken up. if she had said- i went into ds in his bedroom, gave him some toys and left him in his cot and didnt wake up until 2 hours later, would anyone seriously comment?

most people don't have their 17 month old in their room overnight. If the child cannot get out of the playpen and was happy i really don't see the problem.

Randall, Well I'm damned if do respond and damned if I don't. Have you heard of defamation? I have 2 young children and I think what you're suggesting on a Public Forum is highly irresponsible.

I disagreed with some people on this thread. What is wrong with that. It is a discussion forum. I am quite adamant that I will not be told what views I can and should hold- sorry if that's not what you want to hear.

I am a longstanding poster- which I'm sure will be rebuked but never mind.

Mary, I sense that's about as likely to happen as the world ending next month!!

Goldenbear - what other names have you posted under?

I never have.