Too much time in playpen for toddler?

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This morning DS 17 months woke up at 6am. I got up bf him and put him in the playpen. It is one of those extra large, hexagonal playpens.

Around 6.15 I gave him some water and changed his nappy. Then I went back to bed after making sure the playpen had only safe toys and the baby monitor was plugged in.

I fell asleep and woke up at 8.30. I went out to see DS and he was happily playing with this toys. He is very into small manipulative puzzles, shape boxes, stacking cups etc at the moment and he was busy playing with these.

He had been in the playpen for nearly 2.5 hours! Is this too long? Is there a problem that he plays happliy for this length of time by himself?

Most days I have a nap during the day for an hour or so and DS spends this time in the playpen but I have never left him for 2.5 hours before.

What do you think about this?

Well you're not going to agree with me are you Maryz? That's the whole point!

Did you miss my post in reply to yours Goldenbear??

golden - that hitler reference is completely ott.

My DC were with My DP and his mother yesterday. My DS is at school and my DD is asleep as she gets up at 6 in the MORNING! Is that ok with you MrsDeVere?

No I didn't Chipping but I think you are well aware what that comment was responding to!

It's an example, it is one of the most well known ones of the effect of Group conformity. I'm obviously not suggesting that anyone on here is the kind of person that would support Hitler - jeez!

Okaaay,

That's a very well developed persecution complex you have there Golden!

It's clear you are not interested in reasoning but with your clearly superior intellect it can't have passed you by that there are plenty of posters who have shared your opinion yet they haven't been rounded on quite so harshly.

Maybe one of the reasons is that you have inferred a lot of things from people's posts that haven't actual been said. Maybe it's also because you have reacted in an overly aggressive manner to those things that weren't actually said.

For example, you said that I think you're a twat for being confident in the belief that you're a good parent. That's actually the complete opposite to what I said.

I think it's great that you're confident in that belief. What I actually said is that I think it's twatty to present that belief as fact.

Anyway, I'm going to stop banging my head against a brick wall now, it achieves nothing and it's painful.

I don't see how this was anymore dangerous than leaving a sleeping 17 month old in a cot all night. Yes in either case they could silently choke on vomit or climb out and fall down the stairs but its unlikely.

In either case if the baby had cried the OP would have woken up anyway.

I probably wouldn't choose to do it for so long, but neither did the OP and I'm certain no harm has come and no one has been neglected! In fact it sounds like everyone got what they wanted.

Goldenbear No I didn't Chipping but I think you are well aware what that comment was responding to!

If I knew what you were on about, I wouldn't have asked. If you aren't prepared to back up your snipey comments - don't make them.

Golden bear do you feel validated being the one who knows best? Do you like having everyone disagree with you? Even people who share some of your point of view not one person whole heartedly agrees with you, does that not tell you something?

Oh Golden there really isn't anything else to say.

My posts are there for all to see. I did not at any point call you a twat and tbh that sentence has gone beyond disagreeing and into downright nasty.

(I don't know who you were quoting btw but it wasn't me)

I don't know why you have now descended into personal insults but I'd rather not engage in that sort of thing.

Goldenbear crikey are you still here banging on about how everyone's against you?!

I am soooooo tempted to ask you how you can be on this thread so much when you are giving your DC your 100% undivided attention at all times but that's a low blow

Add message | Report | Message posterRandallPinkFloyd Sun 25-Nov-12 23:39:09
Again Golden you're missing the all important in my opinion.

"In my opinion I'm a good mother"

Very different statement and a lot less twatty.

How is that not calling someone a twat? And you are suddenly calling the slighted victim, personal attack card?

I never said anything about diagnosing, I even added that he was last to achieve many milestones and that he hasn't got issues. You're reading what you want to believe.

A couple of posters before me said it was outright neglect, I said there are degrees but those posters didn't add anything else so people are exagerrating what I said and basically bullying the one poster who will come back at them. I'm a grown woman so the nastiness goes over my head!

You tried to link the two factors when you had no evidence upon which to base your 'opinion'

Now as someone so quick to proclaim how academic you are I am sure if you really believe that their is a link between a child happily playing in a cot for an hour and them being later to achieve milestones than their peers you will be able to find the academic peer reviewed research to begin to back up your 'opinion'

I am very impressed your little one let you sleep for that long - either that or you must be so tired. I personally wouldn't sleep while my DD is up, but that's the right decision for me because she is quite active - she would be hanging on those bars raging! Personally I wouldn't sleep while child is playing. My DD has a habit of finding things around that I don't even see. She once found a loose screw and unscrewed it.

Again - I actually said she did CC on him at 5.5 months as a consequence he did not complain about being put to bed an hour before he was ready and an hour or so after he awoke. I think it is well documented how CC babies, 'give up' as it were because they no it is pointless - no one will come. Cc babies are more clingy as they are insecure about being left, hence he never got off her lap and investigated things like the others because he felt insecure Presumbly. This Limited his chances of learning to crawl, walk even socialise.

Sirzy, this is not an academic paper, it is a MN thread about a playpen- why am I going to start referencing Academic papers to back up my opinion?

If you think that threads should be littered with links to research, practice what you preach and link some articles proving how enforced isolation of an awake baby for 2.5hrs is perfectly acceptable. Even if you have an inclination to find that paper (if it exists) I will not counterbalance with my own research as I don't come on MN to do that.

I am stunned that at 17 months a child is able to occupy himself happily for nearly 2.5 hours. Stunned.

Nothing else in the OP bothers me.