In thinking that good make-up is deceptive?

[Moominsummermadness]

Well of course it's supposed to be. That's the whole point of it. Even very subtle make-up is worn to make us look prettier, younger, healthier. This morning, I was rushing around trying to get four DCs ready to get two of them to panto rehearsals, and then on to my parents house, yet I 'had' to find the time to put some make-up on.

I've been told that I am pretty, but it is all an illusion. I scare even myself with my bare reflection sometimes. I won't go out of the house without at least some concealer under my eyes, mascara and blusher. It makes me feel weird, almost naked. I would love to have the confidence to go make-up free, but the odd time I have been to work without a full face of slap, I have been questioned about the state of my health.

I have four DDs, and hope that at least one of them doesn't turn out as vain as her mother .

Tbf, my face isn't good enough without make up. I shock myself every day with how much better I look with my make up on.

Make up makes me feel better about me. Surely that's a positive message for my DD? I don't give a rats arse, make up is magic.

I don't give a rat's ass either. I'm NOT responsible for teenage suicide. I wear makeup, some days more than others depending on what I'm doing that day as i think it suits me. I can only take responsibility for my own appearance. Not everyone else's.

It can be psychologically beneficial or psychologically damaging. Take your own (personal) pick.

And maybe it's just FUN!

ICBINEG, I never claimed to have invented makeup, I claim to enjoy wearing it.

And funnily enough I don't see my wearing mascara in anyway linked to someone's suicide. The only judgmental person on this thread is you. You are telling people they aren't good enough because they choose to wear makeup.

I would hate to be a slave to make up. I only wear make up when I go out and never for work. If you always wear make up then you never look any different. When I go out with people from work and put it on they all comment and say how nice I look but if I wore it all the time they wouldn't notice that I looked any different.

Also I think that people who wear make up all the time look rough cos their face never gets to see the sun and you end up being pale. Let the sun get to it and your skin will glow naturally

Not me, I'm a melanin free zone.

i love make up

I LOVE IT SO MUCH

ICBINEG You are way over analysing things. Do you also suggest people shouldn't get their hair cut regularly or dress to suit their figure or wear earrings etc in case it gives young teenagers the wrong message?

I can understand concerns about size 0 models, airbrushing away every celebs flaws and stuff like that which give people a totally unrealistic idea of how some women look. But people who like to wear a bit of foundation and blusher and lipstick when they go out are a different matter altogether.
I like wearing make up. I feel more groomed and smart looking with it on. I don't like heavy make up that completely masks someone's natural skin tones or looks too stagey. But I think most women look better with a touch of blusher/foundation/eyeshadow.

As I said I wear a full face everyday. I have a 15 year old DD who isn:t even interested in brushing her hair never mind copying me and my make up obsessions.

well it is all about scale isn't it. driving your car doesn't destroy the environment single handedly but to deny the impact of your car use is selfish.

And yes people with private jets are more culpable than people driving small family cars....but so what? The car drivers are still responsible.

As to the person who said that they thought that the message "Make up makes me feel better about me" is a positive one, WTAF?

How about "being a smart/intelligent/caring/strong/generous/loving woman makes me feel better about me?" delete as appropriate.

Sort of the difference between saying "I love you as you are" and "never mind I have something you can cover yourself up with so at least we can go out".

I kinda know which I will be saying to my DD both verbally and by example.

I dread to think how you'll react if your dd grows up to have a different opinion on this to you.

I dread to think that she might die under the knife...all in search of the perfect figure....

What percentage of people who wear makeup also undergo plastic surgery?

Make up and plastic surgery is not the same thing

I consider myself and many women I know, to be smart/intelligent/caring/strong/generous and loving people. They also choose to we're a little makeup/get their hair done/buy clothes that suit them/get all dolled up for a really special occasion.

Give it a rest ICBINEG. Would you?

Wear. WEAR a little makeup.

ICBENEG My mother was a very active feminist in the 70's & 80's. Still feminist to the core now she's In her 70's. And I'm hugely proud of her and what she passed on to me in terms of How To Be A Woman.

She never wore make up. And is strangely proud of me and my complete adoption of that aspect of my femininity (as well as my independence and shit hot job). Go figure.

Ifancyashandy? Erm, what point are you making? "Go figure" ?

You have a great career and you're proud to have what you're mum passed on to you in terms of how to be a woman. And you don't wear makeup. A choice you've PERSONALLY made.

It's PERSONAL choice. Exactly. there's no superiority in choosing to "go bare/natural".

Captain America (Petronas) cheating on his wife with his younger, more (to some) physically attractive biographer? Well I'm sorry, and it's no excuse for him I know, but Mrs P could have used a comb through her hair and a little lipstick. She may be a wonderful woman/intelligent/strong/kind/loving woman but she looks like his mother.

(Waits to be flamed)

Read above.... Point is, I most certainly DO wear make up...

Apologies. I thought you said your mum didn't wear makeup and she was proud of your adoption of "that aspect of my femininity".

No worries. I'd posted up thread that's loved makeup so thought it was apparent.

and goes to put a swipe of lip pie on, for the school run.

Really must nip to Boots in the morning for some BB cream and mascara. They've got a buy one, get 2nd half price offer on too at the moment....