AIBU to be miffed because DH feels he is just as tired as I am?

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We have a 3 week old DD who wants to be breastfed every 2 hours at the moment, and a very spirited 3 year old DS. DH is at work full time and gets up half an hour earlier than I'm awake to take dog on quick walk. Given he doesn't feed (therefore stays asleep) or do nappies, and some nights sleeps in spare bed, how can he be just as tired as me? Or perhaps I am being u nreasonableu

YADBU because anyone who is breastfeeding every 2 hours is completely unreasonable . No, seriously. I can understand that he is shattered, coping with a full time job, dog walking, plus wife, 3 yo and 3 week old. Any man would be. But you are breastfeeding and don't get the spare bed occasionally. Therefore you win. You are the tiredest. (But it gets better - and congrats on the new baby).

There is no measurement that will answer the who is more tired than who question. Basically you are both nackered! Try not to let the tiredness cause arguements
Oh, and for future reference, ya never bu when you have a newborn, you are possibly hormonal and definately strung out. HTH

Fair responses. I just feel like shit! It's blooming hard work feeding round the clock All this 'sleep when your baby sleeps' advice. Ha!

Oh my God, I am so transported right back to where you are, and remember completely seething over this!!

DH used to try to claim he was as tired and there was just no way. You are so not being unreasonable.

However for the sake of your own sanity you just absolutely have to not get into the 'who's the most tired' convos because you will do your own head before anything.

Full sympathy. :)

He can join my DH, who is apparently more tired and gets as little sleep as me because he's always awake during night feeds.
Bollocks is he, he's snoring next to me right now. Bastard!!

YANBU but competitive tiredness is pointless as in IME men will rarely concede.

my lo is now 14 weeks, and now only feeds once during the night.. so hang on in there it gets better and your doing great!
unless you've been there you cant understand how tiring bfding every 2/3 hrs and toddler chasing is! (my ds is 2.5)
you are def more tired than he is!
i try not to get into a who's more tired row with dp,(but we with know its me ;-) )
yanbu!

My DS is 3 weeks too and I am finding it hard enough without a toddler to add into the equation so many hats off to you.

DH is super helpful and I still feel irrationally and unreasonably furious with him at around this time of night: for snoring, being able to sleep, breathing, existing. Also a futile compulsion to work out who got what sleep. Why??!

I hate it when you end up playing 'tiredness trumps' e.g. 'I only had 2 hours sleep last night' 'well I actually woke up before I went to bed' nonsense. YANBU at all but you're probably both tired & adjusting so try not to seeth about it too much.

Yanbu, I have the same silent seething anger when dh sits yawning and hopeless at the breakfast table. I bf 6wo ds2 all night and he gets up with 2yo ds1 after a full night's sleep in the spare room. I usually manage to bite my tongue but I'm just daring him to say he's tired so I can kick off.... (possibly irrational mum alert).

Yanbu. I once burst into tears because I was so sleep deprived when dh complained he was tired. It felt to me like he didn't sympathise and was just playing 'tiredness trumps' [thanks, perfect phrase MrsHels]. He shut up about it for a while after that.

I still feel a bit aggrieved sometimes when he sits there doing his woe is me am drams but I remind myself of the long hours he works and that he is allowed to be tired too. It is hard though.

I shall probably be shot for suggesting it - have you thought about expressing so he can do a night feed?

Agree with Ophelia Even if it's just one feed, even if it's just on weekends. Do it whilst you have the chance. Please don't get in the habit of being the only one that gets up in the night or you may end up like me, collapsed on the sofa with bags under your eyes 15 months later because poorly DD will only settle with you at night. Urgh I need a

Would agree not to start tiredness competition - my DH is self employed and I keep hearing him on phone telling his customers how tough our newborn is and all the sleepless nights - yeah right, he's on the spareroom bed snoring all night, and even having lie ins as he seems to think he on mat leave too (our LO is 5weeks and still feeding 3-4 hourly, sometimes longer if I'm lucky!)

I had a long labour too (30 hours), was in hospital two nights - and both nights LO didn't sleep til 4am and wanted fed every hour - DH said he'd be back in the morning the first night at ten am (so I'm keenly waiting for him to appear to give ne a break - just so I can have shower, eat breakfast) - no sign of him by half past so I call and he's just up getting a boiled egg - as he was shattered after the birth... Jeez.

I have actually thought how I can see how people spilt up after having a baby. And don't get me started on how he tells me how he's missing sex...

And it's not as if he was particularly insensitive before as he has always been great before at going extra mile but this seems to make him pretty self indulgent - I think he's feeling neglected because I told him to get out our bed due to snoring (at me in mockery it felt!) and I've been so pissed off with him that he's had no affection or much attention... Bit like my Labrador in fact...

There is a chance he is feeling as tired as you.

I feel far, far worse now if I get woken up in the night by a child then I ever did when I was feeding any of them. I think your body gets used to that level of disturbed sleep to a certain extent. Now I am used to undisturbed nights and waking up when I want and having a child wake me up on rare occasions floors me completely now.

I think it is impossible to judge - I don't think amount of sleep corresponds exactly to how tired you feel.

But, obviously, YANBU because you have a newborn :)

YANBU

I agree about the competition thing but sometimes when you are absolutely shattered and your DP/H is moaning about it too, despite having much more sleep it can be enraging.

At the moment, I am 33 weeks pregnant, have been suffering with chronic heartburn which isn't relieved with any medication. I have two DC (20 months and 3.7), work 30 hours in 3 days with a two hour daily commute. I also take the DC on public transport to nursery opposite my work for those days.

By contrast, DP works from bed home every day. His work is mostly online/by telephone so he doesn't even need to get dressed.

He sleeps in the spare bedroom usually as he doesn't like being disturbed (which is fine by me as the DC come in bed with me and there's no room!)

I get up with the DC every morning except Sundays because I'm now programmed for an early start.

He still moans about being more tired.

If I mention being tired he immediately counters with how tired he is or how little sleep he has had. He did the same when I was EBFing both DC.

In fact, last night he went to bed an hour before me and it's still me who is up today.

It's fucking annoying.

I'm currently contemplating unleashing the DC on him while I have a shower.

YADNBU.

I threw a remote control at dh's head once when I was sat up feeding the baby (she didn't feed lying down very well when she was very small) and he was snoring in bed across the room. I don't recommend this course of action, and in my defence I had a newborn and a 3yo and had lost all mind and reason through exhaustion, but it did make me feel slightly better.

I missed, btw, and he carried on snoring. Bastard.

Yabu, it's not a competition and you don't know how tired he feels anyway. And if you're really not coping then express milk and let your dh do some night feeds. Your baby will still be receiving exclusively breast milk and it will enable your dh to actually feed her .... I think its difficult for many husbands when they physically cant do anything to feed the baby. No point in being a martyr about it

Yanbu - he is bu to compare - it is he that is turning it into a "competition". He should just appreciate that at the mo you are exhausted.

Ps expressing is tough Janey when you are establishing bf so not easy to do with a 3 week old (possibly in a growth spurt if feeding 2 hourly) and a spirited 3yr old.

Ah, the Sleep Olympics. No medals to be gained here.

We all understand. Seethe away

YANBU - women with lazy arse husbands always get told not to play "competitive tiredness", with the subtext being that men deserve more rest because they have jobs.

If you are bfing a 3 week old baby, there is no competition because you are clearly having disturbed sleep every night while he mostly sleeps.

A kind man would recognise that and be nice to you.

He can seriously think he is as exhausted as you are? Pure madness!

My DP is more tired than me because his job is physically, mentally & emotionally exhausting. I'm a SAHM so mine is just physically exhausting.

My DP is also more of a wanker than me.