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to think burning a poppy makes you a twat..

71 replies

EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 13:36

but not a criminal?

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Two-carpets-/130801686273?pt=UK_Home_Garden_FittedCarpets_Underlay_SM&hash=item1e74635701story

very worrying for freedom of speech.

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EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 13:36

right link sorry

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nickelrocketgoBooooooom · 12/11/2012 13:40

Grin at your carpets!

yes, i agree.
but at this time of year, everyone gets very serious about it.
if they'd done that in may, no one would have noticed

Frontpaw · 12/11/2012 13:41

Not sure, it's all freedom of speech versus responsibility not to be an arse.

I wouldn't buy those carpets though - the photo don't show them properly!

OldMumsy · 12/11/2012 13:42

I agree this Facebook stuff has gone too far. We need free speech.

I would not support burning a poppy at a Remembrance event though. Or maybe it would be OK as long as the police stood back and let the general public dish out their own punishment.

Good luck with the carpet too.

EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 13:44
Grin

mutters about children hitting keyboard

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EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 13:46

yes, but surely poppy day is a non-mandatory celebration of the fallen, if you want to be offensive about it you have a right to do that.

otherwise, if they were fighting for freedom and civil liberties, kind of defeating the point?

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MonkeyRisotto · 12/11/2012 13:46

If we had to lock people up for being twats, the houses of parliament would be a lot quieter...

mercibucket · 12/11/2012 13:48

I agree, it is worrying how things are going. Are we following the 'putin guide to running a country'? There has always been controversy around the poppy anyway, used to be white poppies as an alternative and 25 years ago there was a kerfuffle over someone laying a white poppy wreath (was in the 25 years ago part of the paper). I feel similarly about that facebook page about soldiers.

mercibucket · 12/11/2012 13:48

I agree, it is worrying how things are going. Are we following the 'putin guide to running a country'? There has always been controversy around the poppy anyway, used to be white poppies as an alternative and 25 years ago there was a kerfuffle over someone laying a white poppy wreath (was in the 25 years ago part of the paper). I feel similarly about that facebook page about soldiers.

Frontpaw · 12/11/2012 13:50

Did post on face ache under his own name or was he tracked down?

The problem with social media sites is that anyone can broadcast anything the like to the nation without showing their face. It's never going to be 100% anonymous, but most of the twats who go out of their way to offend to abuse can't quite get their little brains around that fact.

cuteboots · 12/11/2012 13:52

He has the right to be offensive but cant he do it in the privacy of his own home and without broadcasting it on Facebook. Im not sure any person in their right mind would find this appropriate behaviour based on all our poor soliders being killed right now. Very odd behaviour if you ask me

Frontpaw · 12/11/2012 13:54

Alas the is no anti-drunk or -twat key on social media. He probably just did it to be offensive rather than try to make any political or social statement.

joanbyers · 12/11/2012 13:55

burn the carpet not the poppy.

Frontpaw · 12/11/2012 13:58

Grin that was a good one!

Santasinmypudenda · 12/11/2012 14:04

According to google he posted pictures of his bum after so I'm guessing he is just a silly twat, I bet he does a interview with a sad fa e photo acting t like a martyr

It's not an offence to be twat but I hope he grows up less of a twat

weegiemum · 12/11/2012 14:09

Motto over the door of parliament:

"I may disagree with every word you say,
But I will defend to the last your right to say it"

catgirl1976 · 12/11/2012 14:09

YANBU

Twat, yes

Criminal, no

EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 14:16

just broke my computer, bugger.

saw your post on the other thread catgirl, very moving.

i agree the internet is public space too - but i think what is rough political comments - e.g. flag burning, poppy burning - should be allowed.

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Frontpaw · 12/11/2012 14:17

Shame his bum wasn't on fire!

EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 14:18

the carpets would be 'magnolia' my parents house for sale... bit drab for my taste.

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EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 14:18

frontpaw ;)

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EdgarAllanPond · 12/11/2012 14:19

by arresting him, his twattery got more airtime than it would otherwise too, so self-defeating.

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MrsCantSayAnything · 12/11/2012 14:22

Yabu. If he had burned a symbol of another culture he would be in shit. He deserved to be arrested.

maddening · 12/11/2012 14:28

I think everyone should get less offended about symbolic gestures - as long as you own the piece of paper or fabric that you are burning then it's ok.

Obviously I appreciate that the sentient is hurtful to lots of people and the fact that such acts provoke such out cry shows that this does impact people on a very deep level but if the world shrugged back in response their message would get nowhere.

limitedperiodonly · 12/11/2012 14:29

OFGS! I thought he'd turned up at a ceremony and caused a real life disturbance.

Don't the police have anything better to do or say when people phone them with their knickers in a twist about someone being silly on Facebook?