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to think that feminism should have thought about the consequences and set some rules.

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TulisaLover · 09/11/2012 20:33

I've been chatting with DP this evening and mentioned a post that's been doing the rounds on facebook. It's from a lady sending a message to This Morning about the cost of childcare - on the surface it's a powerful post.

To cut it down:

'I am looking to return to work next year and child care will cost 810 every 4wks - this is more than our mortage!!. The government should help with child care costs.'

DP and I agree with it's sentiment - that child care costs are crippling families, but not necessarily with helping for the costs - he said:

"This is why feminism should have laid down some rules. Both parents earning an income meant banks salivated and started lending for homes based on both. This has forced up prices to cover this as house prices are a function of the amount being lent. Society as a whole loses, bankers win. What should have happened is when you have kids, both parents should be encouraged to work part time so that childcare is shared - or failing that the higher earner whichever gender should have been the one to work. Problems like this wouldn't have happened."

It struck a chord with me - what do you ladies think?

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worklifedifficult · 09/11/2012 21:18

buying up gold in vast quantities since 2001 big lolz there H Samuel nano-ounce standard doesn't count... that's the biggest laff I've had all week do you know how the metal markets work!?!?!?

Chubfuddler · 09/11/2012 21:19

Has he built the gold bars into the cavity walls like Marcos did?

And do you have any opinions of your own?

Chubfuddler · 09/11/2012 21:20

He lives off the land and buys gold in vast quantities?

What a load of crap.

mummybare · 09/11/2012 21:20

Hmm, just musing... Perhaps the focus of feminism, historically, on women's right to go out to work (rather than, say, paternity leave, flexible working, etc.) has unintentionally led to a situatioon where parents, of either gender, cannot afford to be around to raise their children. I don't think I know anyone who has been able to stay at home after maternity leave, and plenty of people who want to.

Which is not to say that this is feminism's 'fault'. It's not about blame; it's just an unwelcome side-effect.

ravenAK · 09/11/2012 21:20

You do your health care & schooling in the compost bin?

StuntGirl · 09/11/2012 21:20

Maybe they've built their bridge out of gold bricks?

TulisaLover · 09/11/2012 21:21

He has over 50kg of gold worklife, bought at close to Brown's bottom prices so he's made a hell of a return :-). He knows how metal markets work and plays them like a fiddle. His gains in silver are astronomical.

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GurlwiththeFrothyCurl · 09/11/2012 21:21

Would love a wooden spoon emoticon for the OP :)

Yama · 09/11/2012 21:22

Tulisa - I pay much more in taxes than the average wage earner and quite frankly would prefer to burn my own faeces. I walk to work. What exactly is your latest boast all about? Sorry, it is not actually a boast but a vicarious boast.

ticktockcroc · 09/11/2012 21:23

Quite, stuntgirl. As an aside, I'm after a new high chair - does anyone know what the Trip Trap is like?

AnnieLobeseder · 09/11/2012 21:23

I would lay the blame more on a short-sighted government who doesn't see, unlike other countries, that subsidising childcare boost the economy by keeping more women in the workforce ad allowing their careers to progress without a large damaging break. Thus ultimately, they will earn more, pay more taxes and more than 'repay' the subsidy.

And house prices are another story altogether - bankers' greed and careless lending.

High house prices and expensive childcare are in no way the 'fault' of women wishing to exist as fully-functioning members of society instead of domestic drudges. It's the fault of the men in power. Any societal shortcomings will always be the fault of those in charge. And until things become more balanced, at the moment that's no-one other than MEN.

scottishmummy · 09/11/2012 21:24

rubbish.this has nothing to do with feminism
the so called solution is actually reinforcing patriarchy,if highest earner stays home.that's likely be woman
how in the hell is recommending women be beholden to high wage partner feminist?

mummybare · 09/11/2012 21:24
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MyCannyBairn · 09/11/2012 21:25

Capitalism not feminism ffs.

TulisaLover · 09/11/2012 21:26

2 million worth kim. We know.

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fenix · 09/11/2012 21:26

I think we've seen the OP here to shit stir, she's not interested in opinions, or learning anything.

Just a shame that their self-sufficiency principles don't stretch to shunning internet and other technology developed by people educated in government schools and universities... and dependent on a multitude of services and public goods.

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MooncupGoddess · 09/11/2012 21:27

The combination of the compost toilet and the gold buying strategy is pure genius. Well done OP Grin

TulisaLover · 09/11/2012 21:28

Fenix, DP was involved in Arpanet, so don't preach to him about the creating of the internet. He was also a developer in Xerox labs, and was supposedly the brains behind WIMP.

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Chubfuddler · 09/11/2012 21:29

Well that's all lovely.

What about you? Apart from your love of a certain n dubz singer, what do you think?

TulisaLover · 09/11/2012 21:31

Erm kim, that was from a facebook post that's going round. It's nothing to do with us. Read the OP before you make assumptions. I work (and get ogled at).

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PamelaSwynfordDeBeaufort · 09/11/2012 21:31

Doesn't human poo have to be treated before being used as compost?

I don't think that's healthy OP, but then neither is your imagination in general.

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