to think a teacher should have more sense

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Last weekend we attended a firework display at our local rugby club.One of the teachers from the local comp. was there totally off his face and f and blinding at everyone, singing very "bawdy" songs (that he was making up as he went along) with really offensive language and gesturesNow I appreciate that he was not there in his role as teacher but given that there were toddlers as well as probably 2000 other children, many of whom will know form school, AIBU to think he should have been a bit more careful.

I've had a word with a teacher for similar behaviour very close to the school (beer, very drunk, community event for children in park next door). It's stupid yes, but I guess he's allowed to on the other hand. Hopefully it's a one off stupid thing to do, which many people have done at some point. Maybe the HT will mention it to him informally if that many saw. If it was a frequent issue though it could go further.

Yes, YANBU! Gove's new Teachers' Standards (which effectively form part of every teacher in a state school's job description) state that teachers should not bring the profession into disrepute.

I agree a quiet word would be best.

Totally idiotic to do it in your community.

This is why all the teachers I know travel to work outside their community.

I will never forget the look on poor dh's face in John Lewis last year when we bumped into a load of yr 9's from his school and they were yelling very surprised 'Youve got a WIFE Sir, Sir has a WIFE". And then it went round school that he really HAD a wife

They are always most bemused that you don't live in a cupboard and only come out to teach them.

It is silly behaviour. It is difficult being a teacher and living in the area you work in. I suppose everyone is entitled to a private life, but you'd hope a teacher would have more sense not to behave like that when children are around.

I'm an ex-teacher (a v v v boring and sensible one ) but when I was a young NQT I found it embarrassing bumping into year 11s on nights out - expecially as they shouldn't have even been there. Going to the supermarket could also be a nightmare - children spying on the contents of your shopping trolley!

DH and his colleagues always get a mini bus so they can get pissed away from pupils and parents alike. Very unprofessional to be like that near children you teach, actually a bit gross to be like that at an occasion with lots of children whatever you do for a living.

(Still very chuffed about when one of DH's pupils, age 10, looked at me with big eyes and said 'Sir, have you got a girlfriend?' I am nearly 40 and a mother of 3 )

One of my favourite NQT stories - teacher dancing away in club, starts to come onto dance partner, "I'm sure i know you, have we met before?" "Of course you know me Sir!"

Poor form whether he's a teacher or not. It wouldn't be acceptable at any public event. Doubly bad in so far as (as we were always told) he is expected to be an ambassador for his school when off site.

Glad I wasn't being unreasonable, I might have a quiet word but as, on the night, his response to being asked to tone down the language began with an "F" and ended with "off" I'm not sure what my resception would be.

so we should just sit in every night drinking a cup of horlicks

On a serious note; we are human and want to have a life outside of school which may include drinking and swearing - whilst I would admit that at a community event its not a good thing for any adult to do if it was at a rugby club that is usually the norm in terms of behaving. This is why i have serious concerns about the new standards and how the power that our managers have on our home lives when not at work

as someone who has been seen drunk at a cricket club by kids I teach, but the students and their parents understand that I am a normal person outside of the job that I do bloody well

I don't think anyone should behave like this ever.

But really, if teachers want to behave like this in an adult only environment, why not? If young children are around it's not really on....I don't care how drunk you are.

cricket balls, I'm normal too, as are most teachers. I get merry in the local pub at times, even with parents a few times but I don't swear and get aggressive at family events. Anyone who does that deserves to be told after they acted like a knob. Any job would take the same view, I remember working at TESCO and a few guys fighting/ swearing at a Christmas party then getting a telling off at work because it was way out of line. Noone had a problem with the average drunk staff member swaying/ falling/ talking too much or singing out of tune.

at one of our xmas do's the police \were called; arrived in vans; there was blood and arrests. it was a good night

i am not a teacher though...

YANBU at the aggressive behaviour - but I agree that teachers shouldn't be expected to be completely sober and straitlaced at all times outside work.

When I was at school, the teachers and sixth formers all went to the same pub at lunch. There was a very strict unspoken agreement that the teachers turned left into the saloon bar, and the pupils turned right into the public one

It wasn't a case of mistaken identity was it? ie. Someone who looks like the teacher? How do you know the teacher?

At DS1's prom, a teacher had a little bit too much to drink and slagged DS2 off very loudly in the vicinity of DS1!

i've been getting really tired of the teacher bashing on mn - but in this case i wholeheartedly agree with the op. don't show yourselves up!

I do agree with you Ghoulelocks that if someone acts like a knob then they should be told; but the op is saying that a teacher in particular should be more careful - and I just replied that teachers are also human and therefore have a life outside of school!

fair enough cricket balls, can we compromise and agree that teachers should be held up to the same standards as the rest of society but also think he's a twat?

I think parents should be completely sober, and never swear or smoke when with their DC, or when at home in charge of their DC. All the time. Until their children are 18.

agreed Ghoulelocks

in the recently applied teachers' standards, behaviour out of school counts.

But yes, the teacher was a prat. He should be aware of the society he lives in and what is and isn't acceptable, and being a foul-mouthed drunk is unacceptable whatever his job.

But isn't that worrying though lovebunny? I do a bloody good job at school, highest results, more students above target etc BUT I am also human! I enjoy having a drink, I smoke, I have a life that does not detract from how well I do my job, so why should my legal social life have implications on my working life?

Tempus I think we went to the same school ...

Selective blindness every lunch time!