To think that David Milliband is at least 11.4x more credible than his moronic brother?

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Haven't seen him on TV for a while but he's on QT right now. I'd forgotten how professional and impressive he is as a politician.

Labour would be in a much, much better position with him at the helm and, dare I say it, perhaps a credible opposition party.

It's a shame for the country that he's on the sidelines while Ed&Ed flounder.

YANBU. He's going to go down in history as the greatest PM we never had.

YADNBU
I couldn't believe Ed defeated him. I think he'll have the last laugh though.

Yanbu, I think Labour could have been on their way back in with David as leader. I just don't see any leadership, conviction or inspiration in Ed.

I thought the greatest PM we never had was John Smith.

Yy to John Smith. I think of him as the last leader who was unconcerned with image, spin and the media. Maybe we would have seen that side to him had he been elected but he always seemed genuine, deeply committed to his ideals and honest.

Politics just depresses me know, there's no real choice.

Or Robin Cook, not a pretty man, but not called two brains for nothing. His resignation speech over Iraq, seminal and so far sighted.

My DP wants to know how you got to only 11.4...

YANBU
I think David is brilliant and Ed is a twonk

I amend previous statement to " one of the greatest PM's we never had" ...he is not alone in being overlooked!

My DP wants to know how you got to only 11.4...

Well, I added it up as follows:

I gave 3 to David in view of Ed's performance here

Another 3 to David for me being able to imagine Ed selling the country's gold reserve at an even lower price than Brown managed.

5 for Ed coming across as a closet left-wing nut-job whatever the subject he's bumbling about, while David manages not to.

The 0.4 was for David being nicer to look at (see, I'm less shallow than I am interested in his objective merits )

so glad you started this thread I could not agree more,get so angry every time I think about the harm that Ed did by standing against his brother.

I'd give him 11.4 purely for the nose (or lack of).

Dp is highly impressed with your ratings!

He sounds as though he's making his case for 'next leader' with the grand standing he's spouting. Far too wannabe Bliar for my liking. We're fooked really.

My DP has just had a mini-rant.

Apparently...

"Ed Miliband and his monkey (Ed Balls) couldn't run a hotdog stall"

"They couldn't manage another slice of cake between them" (I didn't get that one at first)

YANBU. We're watching QT and have been saying the same.

"I thought the greatest PM we never had was John Smith."

Definitely

he is brilliant but I am currently shouting 'go Jerry go Jerry' like a giant cock

Yabu, David Miliband leaves me cold while I think Ed is more interesting - both horribly disappointing overall imo. Would prefer Shami to either though, or Caroline Lucas- not as Labour leader, as next pm. Fully expect Labour win in 2015 with Ed. what are the odds? May have a punt!

Or even Jerry Springer.....

"I thought the greatest PM we never had was John Smith."
I agree with this as well. As for the two brothers neither of them should be leader of the labour party, we need fresh blood as they say. Who that is I dont know. They all seem to be out for themselves and stuff the rest of us.

Shami would be brilliant :)

I want to see Natalie Bennett the new Green Party Leader on QT to see what she like.

Will Ed even get to the next election?