To be loving the Liz Jone and India Knight Feud?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2220669/Spouting-filth-s-VERY-strange-way-stick-free-speech.html

In which, middle class India Knight called la Liz everything under the sun on her nasty twitter diatribe of nonsense.

Schadenfreude, I know.

I liked Michaela's tweets. She wasn't being too nasty, she was setting the record straight (about this thread) and then after IK made the jibe about cuddling the cat she said something about nepotism, which is a fair jibe I'd say.

I like to wear dressage gear with a Lady Godiva slant, so I am completely naked except for a top hat. Tally ho.

I'm sure it wasn't IK's intention to have those who previously hated LJ's writing actually warm to her, thus is the unpredictability of social media.

I enjoy reading India Knight & have since I read The Dirty Bits - For Girls for my degree. And I tried the diet :)

I used to be quite appalled by LJ's column about her marriage & it's subsequent breakdown when I was young. I was amazed it was real, it should have been anonymous at least. I try to avoid her writing these days.

I echo those who have expressed distaste at those insulting their looks/size. Now that's bullying.

It's not actually technically bullying because they're not (AFAIK - looks sternly round) on this thread to be bullied.

I wonder do helpful people email the threads to the person being slagged, or are they on MN so much they stumble across them?

india knight is degree level reading? shit no

It's public, just as twitter is.

YY, what is this Dirty Bits? Is it peer reviewed? On the reading list?

Yes, I know it's public.I am fully aware of the openness of the internet. All I'm saying is that it isn't technically bullying. Bullying is when people gang up on an individual who is there to be bullied. It might not be kind to slag off someone who is not around, it might be gossip or slander or suchlike, but it isn't bullying.

Ha. No, it wasn't study material.

And what Aitch said.

I do think it is rather different to make your life entirely public, including your own looks, and then be a target for comment than if, for instance, someone said 'oi, MI, I read your latest feature on heart disease and boy oh boy you are a hideous gnome, aren't you'. (Although obviously you may be thinking this, I fully admit.)

I agree MI (not with the gnome bit obvs). There has to be a Fair Game level of Sleb status, surely? Samantha Brick, Peter Andre, Bruce Forsyth.
it's almost a public service in some cases.

i don't get the piety, MI, when the discussion is actually about one power-crazed collumnist calling another equally-crazed but demonstrably vulnerable collumnist a cat-wanking cunt. complete loss of privileges, imo.

(am also amazed that she is so happy to call people who disagree with her 'mentals'. is it satirical?)

LJ wrote about having her breasts removed.

Admittedly I have only had to meet LJ for work but it was not the cosiest experience of my life.

Why, why, why did India feel the need to insult Liz so publicly and aggressively? She's actually - despite what many seem to think here - a fabulous journalist IMO, but I have no idea why she would think tweeting in this way would achieve anything other than to make her look like the vilest, nastiest type of bully there is. Picking on others worse off than you to make yourself feel or look better is never pretty, whatever the circs...

I wasn't insinuating that you don't understand the internet MI. I was just comparing it to twitter. If it's bullying there, it's bullying here.

I felt for liz, I don't see that her column was all that different from blogging about a relationship breakdown. Her marriage broke up at the same time as my relationship did. Although, I was broke, with no career and two kids and no pot to piss in! but I still felt for her. Because the relationship before the one with my kids' dad, that breakup hit me harder and I bored all my friends and family and colleagues for years! I'd buy liz a virgin mary and we could talk shitty exes, clothes and animals!

mrsshackleton I don't have a problem with LJ, though sometimes she seems to contradict herself.
She at least knows she has ishoos.