To be loving the Liz Jone and India Knight Feud?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2220669/Spouting-filth-s-VERY-strange-way-stick-free-speech.html

In which, middle class India Knight called la Liz everything under the sun on her nasty twitter diatribe of nonsense.

Schadenfreude, I know.

Yes sorry about deletion city but there really are some pretty unkind comments on this thread.

Just because someone is in public life doesn't it really doesn't mean they're fair game. Fine to take issue with someone's actions, I know lots of Mumsnetters disagreed strongly with IK's column about mental health, but the personal stuff is unpleasant and bitchy and not what we're here for.

Bupcakesandcunting Excellent work .

Poor Pinot

bups is indeed festering but not fer me to say where

Justine, please could you explain why my thread that linked to Alastair Campbell's blog was deleted?

It's the Astral what did it..

Jiz you know if you get banned you,ll have to go t'other place.

I was not "personal".

I simply pointed out that she can stick up for herself and has made offensive comments about others before.

I can't see how that warrants deletion, it might not be nice for her to hear but it's the truth.

Why are HQ so hell bent on protecting India Knight from everything (even the truth) when she has been so ignorant and insulting about a large section of the forum without apology. You certainly don't have the same strict rules about poor old Peter Andre.

Or is it because I asked Sali to stop whining? She was whining!

@ThePathanKhansWitch

Poor Pinot

bups is indeed festering but not fer me to say where

I don't know exactly as I was away when the last stuff happened but I imagine because it descended into a lot of nastiness - we were pretty close to deleting this one. I will check though and get back to you.

Just to add to Justine's post, we did post earlier on in this thread (several days ago) to explain the other thread's deletion.

I'll repost that post of ours again here, just to be helpful:

"Hello. So sorry not to have posted in answer to your questions till now.

Ok, so t'other thread some of you referring to was deleted because it had deteriorated into a succession of highly personal and potentially libellous comments.

That's also the reason for (most of) the deletions here.

Of course, we have have no problem with anyone criticising India Knight or Liz Jones for their actions/words but we do draw the line at nastily offensive personal comment.

To use the well-worn football-coach analogy, please can we ask you all to remember to play the ball not the (wo)man... "

.bups will swear vengence n me FOEEVER

Thanks Justine.

@AllYoursBabooshka

I was not "personal".

I simply pointed out that she can stick up for herself and has made offensive comments about others before.

I can't see how that warrants deletion, it might not be nice for her to hear but it's the truth.

Why are HQ so hell bent on protecting India Knight from everything (even the truth) when she has been so ignorant and insulting about a large section of the forum without apology. You certainly don't have the same strict rules about poor old Peter Andre.

Or is it because I asked Sali to stop whining? She was whining!

Yep it was the combo of "ugh stop whining" and the "feigning dismay" and "no stranger to upsetting and insulting" comments. Needlessly aggressive and unkind?

Me too Justine please...short term memory loss claim not fictitious. Thought? I was referring to an overview, and locale based indifference to, Thread. Did I personalise it?

(Total) Recall Oestrogen (lack of it related to Ms Jones indeed, but nothing she hasn't mentioned herself...Team angst here), and Londinium-centric, but not much else.

Justine, no no, bups sounded the klaxon, i qanted her to squeeze, she wouldn,t.
We really are talking about two different threads. Honest.

steps away wailing.

Thanks.

Very interested to read Sali's speculation that Alastair Campbell may have misquoted the column and that this may have been the reason for the thread being deleted. I don't recall India tweeting A.C that he misquoted her (though she did tweet him about other things that week). And as I read that column myself on the Sunday it was published, I think he quoted her verbatim - I'm a subscriber so I'll check.

Fair enough.

I would imagine an adult to be a little more thick skinned though, especially after coming on the thread simply to tell us all how horrible we are because we have the audacity to be honest about one of her besties.

I wouldn't go as far as aggressive though.

@Jizjones

Me too Justine please...short term memory loss claim not fictitious. Thought? I was referring to an overview, and locale based indifference to, Thread. Did I personalise it?

(Total) Recall Oestrogen (lack of it related to Ms Jones indeed, but nothing she hasn't mentioned herself...Team angst here), and Londinium-centric, but not much else.

Yes was because of the stuff about spelling of names -
"Sali ? Really? Honestly? Off to MN Baby Names to post on this as a fatuous mis-spelling of a perfectly good first name" and some more stuff of that ilk which in fairness I didn't entirely understand but felt a bit mean girls/ school playground?

"felt a bit mean girls/ school playground"

To be fair, if that criteria stood we wouldn't have a huge entertaining chunk of Mumsnet Talk!

ThePathanKhansWitch You mean...Babycentre ?

Ok, I'll admit it... I flirted with that site briefly when DC1 was In Utero, but tore myself away from the Love.

Found the Nest some sleepless years later...NC'ed and finding my inner cuntrycomestotown.

(Still licking you...and still Team Angst)

Who am I?

I imagine it descended into nastiness

Oh no bups!did that spot explode your head?
I,m all confused.

@AllYoursBabooshka

Fair enough.

I would imagine an adult to be a little more thick skinned though, especially after coming on the thread simply to tell us all how horrible we are because we have the audacity to be honest about one of her besties.

I wouldn't go as far as aggressive though.

I think we'd all do the same if we saw a bitchy thread about one our mates on a forum wouldn't we? We would never talk about other Mumsnetters in the way we sometimes do of slebs/columnists. Everyone would take a very dim view and rightly so.

Thank you Justine...I can live with that. My Oestrogen is leaching onto the keyboard as I type, just relieved I wasn't spreadsheeted as a Menopausalist

...but AIBU to think that this is really her given name though?

Have a hug, a cheroot, and a dash of your favourite poison, from me...pulling a late Thursday shift (from home) isn't all it's craic'ed up to be.

@PoppyAmex

"felt a bit mean girls/ school playground"

To be fair, if that criteria stood we wouldn't have a huge entertaining chunk of Mumsnet Talk!

Yes I take the point . Tis a fine line between funny and mean. Think this thread crossed the line.

@ThePathanKhansWitch

Justine, no no, bups sounded the klaxon, i qanted her to squeeze, she wouldn,t. We really are talking about two different threads. Honest.

steps away wailing.

Me too!

@BeerTricksPott3r

Oh Justine, this was a Zombie Thread until Sali popped up on it to defend a friend. Who can't bring herself to post her own objections.

You'd call that one step away from Sockpuppeting if it were anyone else, you know you would.

I know what you're saying but not everyone knows about zombie threads. Just as likely that someone just sees the words, gets riled by and posts as is sockpuppeting.