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Feminism is Over according to NetMums

128 replies

WorraLiberty · 18/10/2012 10:26

AIBU to think that given the reoccurring threads on here, if they had asked MumsNet to take part in the poll, possibly more than 28% would have said, they find the radical feminism of Germaine Greer too aggressive towards men, and no longer view it as a positive label for women?

Or do you think a MumsNet survey would have thrown up similar/completely different results?

Link to Daily Express story

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blonderthanred · 18/10/2012 12:12

How do you know that cantspel? Many people have an Internet presence but are also active in real life.

Picking up on the small stuff doesn't prevent me from seeing the bigger picture.

I think the recent news stories about abortion, Malala and JLC are all that is needed to show that Feminism is still needed and wanted by women in the UK and all over the world.

greenhill · 18/10/2012 12:14

I second pagwatch I'm a feminist and a SAHM, I've done my 15 years of corporate life. I'm now helping prove that "the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" by having influence in my local pre-school, school and various clubs and committees that I am on.

One thing to be perhaps be heartened by is that all these younger women are taking advantage of all the things that have been fought for over the years, they are of the never look backwards, only forwards mentality. Maybe they are hiding their feminism under their outwardly conformist fake tan and acrylic nails.

LittleTyga · 18/10/2012 12:14

Doesn't surprise me at all - I get embroiled in a Feminist discussion on there a few years ago and got ripped to shreds for speaking as a feminist. They don't believe in all that equality stuff over there - their menz work so hard Hmm

MmeLindor · 18/10/2012 12:16

Um, cantspel I would say I am more comfortable being an 'internet feminist' than a out on the streets activist, but it doesn't mean that I do nothing.

I know plenty of feminists online who do great work at highlighting sexism - both large and small issues.

Low level sexism is actually a huge problem, even if the big issues seem worthier.

HoneyDragon · 18/10/2012 12:16

I filled in that survey. It was appalling.
And I put in the comments box how shit it was.

It made feminism out to be wearing dungarees and shouting in the boardroom whilst abandoning your children to wolves.

You also had to pick a feminist role model

from Coleen Roony
Michelle Obama
or
Jordan

I ticked the other box and chose Justine, for providing a forum for intelligent women.

It was a dire biased and carefully engineered pile ofshite.

WorraLiberty · 18/10/2012 12:17

Are they not as individual as the posters on MN?

I don't know, I've genuinely never read NetMums.

But I would imagine they're still people with individual beliefs?

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WorraLiberty · 18/10/2012 12:18

X posted

My last post was to LittleTyga

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CrackerJackShack · 18/10/2012 12:18

I hate the OP right now for sending me over to netmums. I'm not completely distracted by a stupid thread (44 pages bloody long) on surrendered wives. Confused

I'm scared. Very scared.

cantspel · 18/10/2012 12:18

blonderthanred to me it is pretty telling when you get a thread about knitting a blanket for Malala that get 4 times the number of posts than the thread which first posted her story.

CrackerJackShack · 18/10/2012 12:18

now

blonderthanred · 18/10/2012 12:20

I really don't agree that that is "telling". Maybe people feel the need to do something active? It's a pretty cut and dried situation, it's not like there's going to be a long discussion about the rights and wrongs of it.

HoneyDragon · 18/10/2012 12:22

There is a massive pack mentality over there, especially over issue like feminism. I know people complain over here, but the difference is your opinion is allowed to stand.

You don't get pulled beause a mod disagrees with you, which I have seen. I ad a good osey a couple of years ago, when looking at the local sites in regards to a local community project and had a nosy on the main boards.

cantspel · 18/10/2012 12:28

But it is the same with any real issue. have a look at the womens rights chat.

a thread of over a 100 posts on a feminist boys name wtf that is anyway?

and 1 on Girls aged 4 - 13 traded to end blood feud in rural Pakistan

The fluff gets mulled over until you are sick of seeing it and yet the more serious issues no one is interested in.

UltraBOF · 18/10/2012 12:28

I'm sure that you're right- they are very bit as individual- but there's a tone there, as there is here. Interpreting that survey as though it's 'women' is a bit like surveying Mail readers and proclaiming it the last word on female opinions. It's leaving out all the people who wouldn't touch the Mail with a shitty stick, and who tend to have polar opposite views. There are individual Mail readers who might not be rabid right-wing anti-choicers, sure, but in general, their readership is pretty socially conservative. I'd say the same was true of netmums.

Hullygully · 18/10/2012 12:31

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CelineMcBean · 18/10/2012 12:37

I can't believe for one second more than 3 Nethunners even know who Germaine Greer is.

I also think it's very cruel to ask them questions they don't understand Sad

We need our own survey...

Thisisaeuphemism · 18/10/2012 12:39

They are about to debate this on the intellectual powerhouse that is Loose Women.
Sigh.

Portofino · 18/10/2012 12:43

There are some nice comments on the DM version of this story:

"Forty years ago as an assistant accountant for a multinational company I was attending a meeting when one of the directors asked me if I was one of those 'women's libbers who wanted equality with men' - I smiled sweetly and said that no way did I want equality with men. He looked relieved until I threw the punch line - 'why would I want equality when we are superior?' - Amber , UK, 18/10/2012 11:46++++++++++++ Superior in what way? Tell me what women actually DO other than breed scummy kids? You don't invent anything, you don't write great literature, you don't do great music or art and your contribution to science is almost non existent. Amber try living for ONE day without using anything invented or built by men. By the way you'll need to use a shovel to dig the hole in your garden do go to the toilet (we invented that as well) Women are hopeless and a waste of space, that's why outside of the public sector women are not employable.

  • Martin , Earth, 18/10/2012 12:21"

I hope Martin is single.

cantspel · 18/10/2012 12:45

But both Amber and Martin are wrong.

Men and women are equal neither is superiour, hopeless or a waste of space.

UltraBOF · 18/10/2012 12:45

I doubt it- he's probably married to a vajazzled nethunner.

Thisisaeuphemism · 18/10/2012 12:46

Noooo, they said the survey was from Mumsnet!

Thisisaeuphemism · 18/10/2012 12:46

Phew, thank goodness for Janet Street Porter. She's no net-hun.

CelineMcBean · 18/10/2012 12:59

Martin is an inadequate who lives with his mum and his sole contribution to society is a collection of stiffened wank socks. Allegedly.

WorraLiberty · 18/10/2012 13:15

CrackerJack I would never send anyone there, I'm not that cruel well ok just a bit Shock

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wasabipeanut · 18/10/2012 13:19

I'd say Martin and his hateful views underline why we need feminism rather nicely.

I couldn't see Loose Women. I only hope Janet Street Porter set them straight.