Feminism is Over according to NetMums

[WorraLiberty]

AIBU to think that given the reoccurring threads on here, if they had asked MumsNet to take part in the poll, possibly more than 28% would have said, they find the radical feminism of Germaine Greer too aggressive towards men, and no longer view it as a positive label for women?

Or do you think a MumsNet survey would have thrown up similar/completely different results?

Link to Daily Express story

Ewww such a me me me slant, a big problem in todays society (IMO). I will never be a feMEnist. I'll stay being a SAHM feminist thank you.

We can and should always object, oaty. Be it an unrepresentative survey from netmums leading to a paper making massive claims about the views of all women - or be it one from mumsnet doing the same thing.

All either can say - and should say - is these are the views of our members and all any newspaper report should say is the same thing. When that's not the case - it's wrong.

Here are the original questions

Interesting that they concentrated on feminism being aggressive, when most who don't consider themselves a feminist said that they are strong without needing a label

Over 1/2 of the women surveyed said their teenage daughters were not aware of the feminist movement.

That is Jumpmag buggered then.

We should do our own poll! I bet the answers would be quite different

That's exactly what I'm wondering.

I should imagine that many women working in the professions, such as law and medicine, don't have much spare time for a quick browse of mumsnet during their working day or time at home, and therefore most of their views are completed unreprsented on internet forums

Geegee what about supermarket workers/cleaners/other jobs? Or people working in law and medicine on maternity leave?

One answer to "Are there any downsides to the sucess of feminism?" is "I would like a bit of old fashioned chivalry- opening doors" Why is a bit of decent behaviour like the opening of a door seen as 'special' if a man does it, I will open doors for man and woman alike, it's called being fucking polite. Feminism hasn't stopped that, rudenes and me me me culture has.

Yes Hecate. And even "these are the views of our members" is a fiction, when "membership" is just making a log-in and there is absolutely no real commitment of proper procedure for taking a representative sample of "members" views. Surveys like that are done largely to get a few columns inches for the website surveyed. They don't display any desire to actually get at the truth.

(I accept that the MN rape survey was a bit different because it was at least partly advanced as providing a context in which women could talk and be heard supportively, rather than to be scientific.)

Xnedra

Yes, I noted that too. Never mind equal pay, lets get men to open doors for us.

I blame 50 Shades of Grey.

Just heard on TV that Matthew Wright's show is going to cover this tomorrow with a phone-in called "Do women need feminism anymore?"

Ok so who's going to phone in

I love the way the first line refers to it as "research"

Do women need feminism anymore? Jesus. Maybe somebody should ask the poor girl who was shot in the head for wanting an education whether we need feminism anymore.

Women need feminism more now than we have done for about the last 20 years I would say.

And what about those of us who manage to be a SAHM and still be a feminist. Was I supposed to hand something in when I finished working in the city for 16 years?

What wasabi said. And nearer to home, all you have to do is read the thread about Justin Lee Collins' girlfriend.

Malala, her name is Malala, the girl who was shot by the taliban.

I live in the Middle East. If the Uk is sick of its feminism, they can send it down here thanks.

Would you like JK Rowling or Ms Greer?

trailing sycophantically behind wasabi and nodding agreement

all this anti feminist backlash is weirdly encouraging though isn't it? In an affirming sort of way

affirming? Validating? something like that

How can you compare Greer with Rowling anyway?

Its like comparing apples and oranges.

Greer bought my friend's house in saffron walden, wonder if she still lives there?

am getting muddled up with the 'where do you live' thread

ummm will just go out now, keep up the good work those of you who have women's best interests at heart and also those who instead have some strange axe to grind

The problem with internet feminist is they are too busy posting on threads about being called love my the bus driver and say very little on the real issues of how women are treated in the middle east or young women like Malala who just want the right to be educated.

Internet feminist being those who swap every thread telling other women how they have got it all wrong and their choice is oppressing women and setting the cause back to the 1950's.

Every website has its own demographic. Like attracts like. Many women do not enjoy netmums, precisely because of the large number of morons reactionary and unpolitically-aware posters there. I imagine it is quite an uncomfortable site for a self-identified feminist. So it seems pretty obvious that you won't find its members giving feminism a ringing endorsement.

That's true BOF

It would be interesting if MN did the same survey as I do think the results would be different.

Perhaps not too different, though I'm not sure why I think that.