To be furious that Osborne wants to remove the right to request flexible working?

[PreciousPuddleduck]

I am so so angry about this. Have these b*stards any idea how hard it is to be a working mum, the exorbitant cost of childcare etc, constant rise in cost of living coupled with drop in income and lack of job security.
It has put me off my lunch
Will probably need later

After just reading the article about George Osbournes new idea about workers giving up their rights in return for company shares i am finding it very diffiuclt to formulate a reply that doesn't involve copeous amounts of hardcore swearing and incoherent ranting.

'Have these b*stards any idea how hard it is to be a working mum' of course not, him and his cronnies dont live in the real world like the rest of us

YANBU

My place doesn't offer flexible working though unfortunately so it's an everyday thing for some people :(

I just don't have the words.

Is he having a laugh.

He needs to get a grip on reality, with out flexible work then I would be able to work.

Wouldn't

It is like when Monty Burns got the nuclear powerplant workers to give up their health insurance in exchange for a keg of Duff and a pin ball machine.

:(

Silly women playing at going to work. Lets make it impossible so that they will give up on this nonsense and get back to the sink.
That's what it reeks of to me.

I just dont understand why he would do this. I work Full time (as does my partner and we have 3 kids) we earn too much to get any benefits (except child benefit). I am 7 months pregnant and after I return to work I want to only work a 4 day week.

Even by dropping a day we still wouldnt be entitled to any benefits so its not like the state suddenly has to give me money to drop a day at work [confused}

YANBU.

This means that companies will start only employing those who are willing to waive their rights.

And what rights will they have to waive next? Minimum wage? Holidays?

McHappyPants
I think that is the point.
Female unemployment is at an all time high.
The cynic in me thinks that the Conservatives want all the females chained to the kitchen sink again, so that there are more jobs for men. may be exaggerating slightly

YANBU When I go back to work after ML I'm going to need flexible hours, if not I won't be able to work and would have to pack it in. I'd end up being an unemployed single parent, a Tories worst nightmare!

Is it really that hard for companies to get their own way anyway though? You have the right to request part-time, but they can reject that request can't they? I'm not saying that taking the right away is a good idea, just wondering how difficult it is for employers to get around as it stands.

VodkaJelly ...what a nightmare situation.

for those of you lost for words...how about he's a fu**ing knob. Not very mature but I am at a loss to think of anything intelligent to say in response to his proposal. How the hell can any poliitician, left or right, think that this is a good idea ?

I requested flexible working hours - my employers said no.

not sure what they think im going to do then if they want women back at the sink, i dont have a dh/dp so who the feck is going to work to feed my child?

or maybe they are hoping single parents and thier disfuntional offspring will just starve and die, twats

Its terrifying.

It seems to me like its just another way for employers to screw employees over.

Another way to demoralise the poor and keep them in their place.

Another way to keep women from working.

They havent a clue. And Osbornes grinning, public schoolboy face makes me want to vomit.

They don't want people on benefits, but they also want to make it fucking hard for parents to work. Make,up your sodding minds you bunch of cunts. Company shares thing is a load of gash I work for an llp can't see them wanting to participate!

Could you link to where that was said. I saw the scheme to offer shares to give up rights but I didn't see anywhere that it was compulsory. I suspect the shares for rights scheme will struggle anyway as some rights come from EU law and I'm not sure you could give them up.

There was a link to an article on here yesterday that said employers could opt in.

So I think that means its not compulsary for employers, but if the company you are applying to has opted in you either take the job on those terms or you dont get the job.

You have to wonder what would happen to existing employees. Do they have to accept the terms or lose their job?

I could have read it wrong though.

The article also said they were aiming to bring it in as soon as April 2013.

The LibDems are currently supporting this idea so I would be surprised if it would get through parliament in a form that forced employees to give up their rights.

I dont hold much faith in the LibDems really.

I'm so angry about this. WTF is going on?
It feels like we're going backwards.

See:

www.newstatesman.com/blogs/economics/2012/10/osbornes-employee-owner-plan-beecroft-through-back-door

This exaplains that actually the policy is a double whammy - not only do employees get to lose all their rights for shares of dubious ie possible no va;lue, but it also means that companies can earn unlimited amounts tax-free - most small companies have owners who are 'employed' by the company for tax reasons (but obviously do not fear redundancy etc as it' their own company) who will now be able to own their company through tax-free shares - so no rights for employees AND nor tax for employers!

Don't fucking let them get away with this.