to be fed up of George sodding Osbourne and his Knobbish Ideas

[avivabeaver]

The economy is proving harder to fix than he first thought

Solution- suggest cutting £10bn from the benefits budget and "limit the number of children people can claim for". So- are you supposed to choose your 2 favourite and just feed them then? Or what?

bless :)

"Some of those who know people with disabilities are particularly angry at the ones taking the mickey "
Yes. What she said.

I haven't read thru the hundreds of no doubt very varied responses on this but it's quote obvious that such a system will never work and would most likely never happen anyway.

I do however agree in sorting out benefits in the way of if we could make sure certain amounts of money etc were spent on food, clothing, electricity etc. Not fags, drugs or alcohol.

Before I get flamed that isn't saying that is what all benefits get spent on but some do & it would help make sure the money went to people who needed it.

Who says they'll never reach their full potential? A lot of kids from poor families do ok for themselves - and people are always amazed when they find out about their background.

Quite. I'm one of 8. Grew up on a sinkhole estate in a northern city. We grew up in poverty (although my dad always worked in low paid jobs). I only every had 2 new dresses as a child, one for my first communion and one for my confirmation. All my siblings and I now have good careers, apart from the youngest who is still doing her teacher training at university.

can you get I have a relative with disabilities

guess, not get!

as a direct result of Council funding cut there is NO BUDGET for transport to post 16 education providers for disabled young people in our area anymore - damn right I am pissed off on behalf of my young people and their families

Since it was the very rich rather than the very poor that caused the financial crisis maybe we should sterilise the rich instead of the poor. The poor generally don't cause much of anything. They have no power. Rich kids use up more resources, so one of them has a carbon footprint equal to a good few poor kids- so sterilising bankers would be pretty green too. The money that they would have spent on sending their kids to Eton or wherever could be spent on feeding a few (thousand) poor kids. Soon there'd be no well-off people left and then they wouldn't have to cry about the poor taking all their money. Although if the poor WERE taking all their money then the poor wouldn't be poor, and the rich wouldn't be rich, but don't let the obvious get in the way.

Right and you think it's right that your relative should lose resources and funding, yes?

unless your child needs SEN support to the tune of £10,000 in their life time you will loose all right to any support in education under the new SEN measures that are replacing statements

SadPanda and thank you for being proof
I think there's a lot of people getting snippy about things they don't understand. I do not have a disabled child, so I don't comment on anything to do with disability benefits or costs of living, because I have no idea.

If you don't live on benefits, don't talk as if you know what the money is spent on. You really don't.

Some of those who know people with disabilities are particularly angry at the ones taking the mickey - because their own payments are being deeply scrutinised for fraud (partly because of fraudsters) while OTHER payments may be completely legal but vulnerable to mickey-taking.
All 0.5% of them.

I've made some study of the new proposals, gordy, and I've seen no suggestion of that. Where did you get that from?

Sadly although there are, of course, exceptions, the evidence is pretty clear that poverty during childhood does indeed hamper children throughout their lives. Read the Marmot review. One or two might get away but that's not the case for the majority.

But the real story here is Osborne covering up his own abject failure by lashing out at those least able to defend themselves. He's trying to distract everyone from his pathetic performance - failing in every goal he set himself. Tosser. He was warned. He knew full well what he was doing to the economy. But instead of admitting he screwed up, he now turns on his victims and tries to throw them to his critics.

also - changed funding arrangements for Modern Apprenticeships and Foundation Learning - reducing opportunities for young people

It's George Osborne. Where is this extra u coming from?

we are a pilot area for the new measures - I did my initial training last week :)

A minority of the population has a majority of the wealth. So yes, slightly over half the population is getting more than they are putting in because we are becoming a nation with a poor majority and a superrich minority.

Brycie, of course there will be people on benefits who will have children they can't afford because they know the state will cover it. A minority, but there will be some. Just like there will be some millionaires not paying the taxes they are supposed to because they know there won't be consequences.

It is the governments utter refusal to do anything about increasing the taxes coming in from those who can afford to pay them whilst taking money from the poor and vulnerable that makes this so outrageous.

You need to point to the specific proposals you are talking about. What you suggest would result in the closure of every special needs school in the country. no child would ever get an LSA to support them in the classroom again.
If this is really what is to happen, by the way, your gloating is in the rost possible taste

Sorry, that should be worst possible taste

I am not gloating - I am giving you an illustration of how the cuts have impacted and will impact on disabled young people and their families - you seem unable to see opposing opinions as anything but' sneery or gloaty' which I find strange

My SIL has profound learning disabilities and is in LA supported housing and my middle child is partially deaf and has MLD - am I now qualified to have an opinion?

I am only passing on what I was told by me pathfinding LEA as I am responsible for a big chunk of the 0-25 plan (13-25 bit) and currently responsible for producing Section 139a's