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to be fed up of George sodding Osbourne and his Knobbish Ideas

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avivabeaver · 08/10/2012 11:04

The economy is proving harder to fix than he first thought

Solution- suggest cutting £10bn from the benefits budget and "limit the number of children people can claim for". So- are you supposed to choose your 2 favourite and just feed them then? Or what?

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expatinscotland · 08/10/2012 20:31

'So people borrowing money, that they knew they would never be able to repay, to fund unsustainable lifestyles, played no part in it? '

How does this tie in with benefits? I doubt many who took on mortgages they couldn't pay back were on full benefits.

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expatinscotland · 08/10/2012 20:32

Why is it not easy? You can report anonymously.

NightLark · 08/10/2012 20:32

"If a mother lets her child go hungry because she chose to have 6 kids and spends her benefits on Sky and mobile tariffs,nights out at the pub etc then really there isn't much anybody can do."

Ah, so you think even if benefits were capped at, say, 2 children per family, there would be enough money provided that the woman spent it sensibly and didn't fritter it away on sky tv and mobile phones?

Can I point you in the direction of George Orwell's 'The road to Wigan Pier', if you haven't already read it? There's nothing new under the sun.

I do not think there would be enough money under a revised system, even if the entire family existed in a limbo of no TV, never going out, never buying a gift or having a life. And I think that inflicting that kind of social exclusion on people in modern society is unacceptable even if it means they can eat (presumably potatoes) and buy shoes. And a recipe for social unrest.

It simply makes no sense to punish a generation of children in order to stigmatise their parents.

If the state's aim is to reduce the number of children it supports in the future there is no quick fix. It is no more acceptable to withdraw support from existing children in families than it is to remove them from those families.

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FrothyOM · 08/10/2012 20:33

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5723185/George-Osborne-to-be-investigated-over-expenses.html

Fucking scrounger

All this from the man who reckons under 25s on housing benefit should be slung onto the streets.

expatinscotland · 08/10/2012 20:34

Well, once you found out he'd applied, you should have reported him and then it probably wouldn't have happened.

BitOutOfPractice · 08/10/2012 20:34

I'm fed up of the whole chuffing smug wankerish lot of 'em to be honest

gordyslovesheep · 08/10/2012 20:34

it's an open debate Charley - bluntly if it's okay to pick on the poor it's also okay to pick on the rich - we are, after all 'all in this together' :)

creamteas · 08/10/2012 20:35

I left home at 16, so did most of my friends. What is wrong with it?

It is bad enough that you don't get the full minimum wage till 21, but for housing help even if you are working you need to be 25 to get an adult rate.

If we are going to make young people dependent on their families till they are 25, then perhaps to should still get child benefit sits back and waits for the right wingers to hurl abuse

FrothyOM · 08/10/2012 20:36

... and child tax credits, cream teas, since they are dependents and all that.Grin

PanonOlympus · 08/10/2012 20:36

As was noted on twitter, Osborne talks of a something for nothing agenda. This is the man who benefitted from a £1M trust-fund set up by daddy.

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ShellyBoobs · 08/10/2012 20:38

I left home at 16, so did most of my friends. What is wrong with it?

Nothing wrong with it if you can afford to do it, but not many can. You must have applied yourself very well to have achieved a life of independence at that age.

I left home as soon as I could afford to do so due to having shit parents but it wasn't as soon as 16.

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gordyslovesheep · 08/10/2012 20:41

don't worry Charley you can't catch compassion poorness

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FrothyOM · 08/10/2012 20:49

A bedsit and £56.25 a week JSA

Is that really so great?!!

Because that's all an unemployed under 25 year old will get.

All this working under 25s have to live at home rhetoric, as if they are the ones who have it hard, is a load of bullshit. I think these kids living at home have it easier than the unemployed ones living out of home. I wouldn't have my child living in a bedsit struggling on £56, I think that's a fucking depressing existance. I would have them at home and help them out a bit.