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To think (hope) Eastenders portrayal of social services (Lexi & Lola story) is wrong?

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MoonlightShadows · 05/10/2012 20:10

I am watching it at the moment and am finding the Lexi/Lola storyline quite disturbing, I can't imagine social services really carry on like this and think it's an unfair portrayal.

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Birdsgottafly · 07/10/2012 11:16

"Imagine being watched, every word recorded. Words ADDED. You can't see the reports, oh, no, they're confidential"

If that is happening now then it is illegal.

The contact sheet has to be gone through with the parent and signed, with any comments added, which includes them not agreeing or putting their side to any issues.

Most contacts give an unreal picture of the relationship between parent and child, because many, until they start to have contact don't spend one to one time and don't play with their children, tbh.

bochead · 07/10/2012 11:41

In ten years time some of those children currently being snatched will start to sue the authorities concerned and publicly disclose the stories where the law has prevented their parents from doing so.

Hopefully the current Slovakian case will offer hope to thousands of British born children who don't have the luxury of a foreign government to ask the relevant human rights questions against our current system.

There's a lot of corruption, groupthink, predjudice and politics that goes on in Children's services. SW's should be in the same professional position as teachers - with their actions subject to public scrutiny. CP is too damn important to be left to the whims and fancies of cluesless politicians.

It needs to stop becoming the last lunatic bastion of every lunatic pop pyschology theory related to child development that comes along, and return to a purely evidence based practice model.

This would help the good SW's no end actually as it would enable them be judged on their own merits & not on those of the corrupt & regain the trust of ordinary parents.

The Rochdale case should have demonstrated to the nation to what extent subjective political thinking and not proper objective descision making has badly impacted the quality of Child Protection Services in the UK.

The whole system needs to be refocused so that it becomes about child welfare, based on evidence based practice & the family court system opened to public scrutiny.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 07/10/2012 11:46

When I had SS involvement the twisting that was done behind my back was shocking.

My HV was 100% on my side. She knew I was a good mum and she stuck up for me repeatedly. If it hadnt been for her, I dont know what would have happened.

I have had SWs say my child wasnt read to because she brought the SW a book when the SW asked her to.

I have also had it noted that DD was subjected to "adult programmes" because the SW arrived in the middle of DDs nap and Gilmore Girls was on Hmm

I know that many SWs do a wonderful job. And its not easy. And I dont agree with the portrayal on EE.

However, anyone who thinks that dishonesty and cover ups arent widespread within SS are kidding themselves. The whole service needs an overhaul. We need transparency.

Aboutlastnight · 07/10/2012 11:46

Eastenders is a fucking pantomime.

Sluttybuttons · 07/10/2012 12:04

This is almost the same as my experience with social services although my children werent taken. I was threatened with it often though. When i moved house i was a lone parent with 3 young children. The health visitor came round to visit (my buggy wouldnt fit into the clinic) and weigh the twins. The house was a bit untidy but wasnt too bad (few toys lying about) and there was dishes needing washed. She asked if i would be interested in a nursery 1 morning a week for a couple of hours.
I said yeah that would be a great help. Turns out it was run by social services (nobody told me this till they started interfering). I got told off because DT2 had a dirty nappy when he arrived even though it was obvious his nappy had just been changed because it was completely dry. I had them giving me hassle when he got nappy rash which turned out to be a reaction to the nappies we were using.

Then im not sure if anybody remembers a thread i started asking for advice on how to stop my twins taking their nappy off and smearing crap everywhere. Well i stupidy asked the HV for advice on what to do and the next thing i know is i have 2 social workers at my door wanting to do a full house inspection.

I will never ask a health visitor for any help or advice again and i want nothing more to do with any social workers again.

Sluttybuttons · 07/10/2012 12:21

This Is where lola was discovered

needanswers · 07/10/2012 12:44

birds what contact sheet, what parental involvement?? And I ask that as a family who has been involved with SW across 2 counties.

They were both a disgrace.

Birdsgottafly · 07/10/2012 12:53

A contact sheet is the recording of the contact between the parent and the child.

At the end of contact the FSW or SW goes through the sheet with the parent (or visitor) and the parent adds their comments and signs it if they agree to the contents.

If a complaint is made about the SW/FSW in my LA, then all meetings/visits are done in pairs and the parents see/sign all of the notes.

MrsRobertDuvallHasRosacea · 07/10/2012 13:28

I caught the tail end of the episode and was stuck by how orange the actress playing Lola was.
She looked ridiculous.

SoleSource · 07/10/2012 13:43

Birdsgottafly I hope yoy donot mibdme asking but what do SW want to happen when they visit a home?

Clean, totally tidy houses?. Parents sitting abd chatting or up on their feet makibg fiid whilst talking?

My Sons SW is diaability team abd rarely see her, about three times a year at my request mostly.

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forcedadoption · 07/10/2012 15:00

Nobody dies of emotional abuse or gets crippled by it! Certainly no babies should be taken for "risk of it ".Clever pseodo intellectuals adore to prattle of it ,but honestly would you prefer to have parents who shout at each other a lot ,or be beaten until you are permanently crippled or dead?

needanswers · 07/10/2012 15:23

Birds, OK, that is something that hasn't happened in our case, I assume it should have.

needanswers · 07/10/2012 15:23

Or is that only for LAC.

NeilF · 07/10/2012 15:26

Many do die through 'Emotional Abuse' by taking their own lives

needanswers · 07/10/2012 15:34

I agree - emotional abuse is as insidious and damaging as any other form of abuse

stopforcedadoption · 07/10/2012 16:44

ss do walk in and take your children then forced adopt them out what happened to lola happened to me with my son i have a recording of a ss manager telling me i was shafted and if u dont believe me then watch my video on you tube its called My Illegally kidnapped son Darren-Jay Lee and when u do go on there look at the side were all other videos of other familys are going thought the same thing also google forced adoption John hemmings the mp is involved in helping us expose what ss are doing to Innocent familys they have a target to adopted children out and they can not adopted the children out who have been abused or not looked after so they take children from familys that love and look after there child ss get paid bonuses for reaching there adoption target this is no lie plz open ur eyes and see what ss are doing

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved · 07/10/2012 16:45

But surely emotional abuse can also be evidence based?

I think the issue is that the process isn't working, for children who are abused & families who are innocent. Ss record keeping, processes and criteria are chaotic, variable and shrouded in mystery, which doesn't serve the children, families or ss itself. For a start it pits them in a position which allows speculation & blame, it allows the bad social workers to abuse their powers, & the good social workers to be tarnished by this.

It seems anyone who challenges ss is dismissed as having a grudge, unstable or 'there's no smoke without fired' type of thinking. This is outlawed in law for anyone else but when it comes to our most vulnerable children, why do we let this continue? We get hysterical when trying to protect children, and it's not helping anyone - not even the children.

I think the Beeb should portray ss however they want, there is good, there is bad, & why should ss be allowed to have their image artificially white washed? It doesn't inspire trust - trust would be about clarity, openness & the ability to see eastenders as a story, not propaganda for or against them.

stopforcedadoption · 07/10/2012 16:46

ss do walk in and take your children then forced adopt them out what happened to lola happened to me with my son i have a recording of a ss manager telling me i was shafted and if u dont believe me then watch my video on you tube its called My Illegally kidnapped son Darren-Jay Lee and when u do go on there look at the side were all other videos of other familys are going thought the same thing also google forced adoption John hemmings the mp is involved in helping us expose what ss are doing to Innocent familys they have a target to adopted children out and they can not adopted the children out who have been abused or not looked after so they take children from familys that love and look after there child ss get paid bonuses for reaching there adoption target this is no lie plz open ur eyes and see what ss are doing

RubixCube · 07/10/2012 16:56

I thought Mercedes signed over her rights though?

cocolepew · 07/10/2012 16:57

It's a soap opera. It's not supposed to be real life. Most programmes are the same, unless you're watching a documentary.

They have half an hour to show it, they aren't going to go through team meetings and court orders because it is pretend.

I'm sure there will be people thinking that's how it's done but there are people who can't distinguish between the actors and the real person as well.
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cocolepew · 07/10/2012 16:59

Like,somebody has already said, Lola was being arrested and the sw wasnt leaving Lexi with Billy because he was 'drunk'.

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cocolepew · 07/10/2012 17:08

That's really interesting about the actress being on Jamies school thingy.

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