For thinking i shouldn't be getting constantly pestered by the local nurse and GP team to get my daughter immunises when i've repeatedly told them my answer is no?

[Lowla]

My daughter is 4. She got all her jabs as a baby, but i stopped at the MMR one. Since we missed the appointment, i've been getting loads of letters to invite us to the clinic for the MMR jab and now her school booster jab for some other virus. (Hib or something like that).

I've phoned the GP and asked them not to send any more letters out as i've chosen not to get her immunised any further for my own personal reasons, and worries over her last reactions to the jabs. And now i've got some nurse calling me asking to do a home visit next week to 'check on me and dd'. I asked 'is this about the jabs?' and she said, rather reluctantly, 'yes'.

AIBU for feeling like they should respect my decision?

Sorry for the bad grammar. Writing this in a rush as i have to run and get dd from school.

Hi.

Yes it's the gp's who are sending letters. And I'm also getting ones from the NHS (the little pink leaflet things with an appointment attached), and now i have a HV coming to my house next week.

The reason i don't want her having them is because with all of her last ones, she ended up in hospital. She reacted badly to all of them, her temperature soared causing her to have febrile (sp?) convulsions, and she was violently sick. I don't want her to have to go through that again. Ezpecially since she's just started school.

mydogsleepsonthebed

when whois said this:

"You're being a selfish idiot to not get your child immunised, it's for the greater good"

they were responding to the OP, who unless she missed out some important info, doesn't have a real medical need to not vaccinate. Not a blanket statement to encompass all non-vaccinators regardless of reason. I think!

Personally I think not vaccinating unless you have a genuine reason not to is selfish. The research that supported the link between autism and the MMR has been discredited. People forget how bad these diseases were before we had vaccinations, and are making their decision to reject vaccines based on the kind of society we have now, ie free from the majority of these killer diseases, only because we have vaccines in the first place!

sossiges no I'm not worried about my vaccinated child, I'm worried out mydogsleeps un vaccinated for medical reasons child.

Then you need to visit the GPS to discuss this as she will be far illegal than that if she gets the illnesses!

Well that's very thoughtful of you

What does her dad say?

Febrile convulsions are not harmful in and of themselves and are not a good reason not to vaccinate. You know what can cause far worse convulsions? MEASLES.

Vaccination acts as a sort of firebreak or firewall in the spread of the disease, slowing or preventing further transmission of the disease to others.[3] Unvaccinated individuals are indirectly protected by vaccinated individuals, as the latter will not contract and transmit the disease between infected and susceptible individuals.[2] Hence, a public health policy of herd immunity may be used to reduce spread of an illness and provide a level of protection to a vulnerable, unvaccinated subgroup. Since only a small fraction of the population (or herd) can be left unvaccinated for this method to be effective, it is considered best left for those who cannot safely receive vaccines because of a medical condition such as an immune disorder, organ transplant recipients, or people with Egg Allergies.

The proportion of immune individuals in a population above which a disease may no longer persist is the herd immunity threshold. Its value varies with the virulence of the disease, the efficacy of the vaccine, and the contact parameter for the population.[3] No vaccine offers complete protection, but the spread of disease from person to person is much higher in those who remain unvaccinated.[4] It is the general aim of those involved in public health to establish herd immunity in most populations. Complications arise when widespread vaccination is not possible or when vaccines are rejected by a part of the population. As of 2009, herd immunity is compromised in some areas for some vaccine-preventable diseases, including pertussis and measles and mumps, in part because of parental refusal of vaccination.[5][6][7]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

Iller not illegal.

I've already discussed it with the Gp's and her HV each time i received a letter. I also discussed it with the doctors each time dd ended up in hospital after she got the jabs, and they still kept harping on about getting her immunised again in future. 'She might grow out of it' apparantly.

I'm sure the OP is making an informed decision, it's just not the decision which suits everybody else, hence the need (?) to hassle her - that's more like it

YABU and taking a risk with your own child's health and perhaps more importantly other children in the community. The MMR link to autism has been shown to have no scientific foundation so there is absaloutely no reason not to have the immunisation. I know of cases of babies, who are too young to be innoculated, contracting Measles and suffering very serious consequences as a result (e.g. blindness and worse). This is why blanket MMR is encouraged and anyone who is a responsible citizen should have their children immunised.

I think I missed your apology, Sossiges.

At the end of the day, i'm not here to ask your opinion on whether or not i should immunise my daughter. As i've had a similar arguments before and realise how they go.

I'm asking whether or not they should respect my decision when i say no.

She might grow out of her vaccine reactions - or she could end up damaged or dead, who can tell?

Write a letter to the GP and the HV. Explain that at the moment you don't want your daughter vaccinated and that you will contact them in the future if you change your mind on that.

If she reacted badly to the last lot of jabs, then you should be talking to them about alternatives to the set jabs - they can use different formulae that do the same thing but have different inactive ingredients.

So, yabu not to have her immunised, but yanbu that they keep hassling you.

But please for the sake of children who have not yet been immunized and therefore are in danger, demand that your GP finds suitable jabs for your DD.

My reasons for not getting her the MMR have little to do with autism links. She already has a diagnosis of autism and she's not had the MMR. It's more to do with how she reacts each time a virus - any virus - is injected into her.

if she ended up in hospital because of the jabs, then you should go to the hospital to discuss the future of the jabs, as it sounds like your GP is being a knobber about it.

Febrile seizures are quite common. An estimated 1 in 20 children will have at least one febrile seizure at some point. Most febrile seizures occur between the ages of six months and three years. The average age is 18 months.

In rare cases, febrile seizures can occur after a child has a vaccination. Research has shown that for every 100,000 children who have the MMR vaccine, which protects against mumps, measles and rubella, 25 to 34 children will have febrile seizures.
To put this figure in context, your child has a 1 in 3,000 to 4,000 chance of having a febrile seizure after having the MMR vaccine.
The risks are even lower with the DTaP/IPV/Hib vaccine, which protects against diphtheria, whooping cough, tetanus, polio and the haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) virus. For every 100,000 children who receive the DTaP/IPV/Hib vaccine, 6 to 9 will have febrile seizures.
This equates to your child having a 1 in 11,000 to 16,000 chance of experiencing a febrile seizure after having the DTaP/IPV/Hib vaccine.

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Febrile-convulsions/Pages/Causes.aspx

Mr Sunshine As much as I am sorry for your DD that she is immunosuppressed - you are not going to get an apology

Carry on being crass and rude then. Making assumptions makes you look foolish too.

YAB selfish

Hib or something like that

I think you really need to make an appointment to see the GP. Maybe they can refer you to a specialist or someone who knows a lot about the immunisations themselves to discuss what the vaccine actually protects your child against, then you could make a truely informed decision about it?

Maybe they could put measures in place to try and prevent a reaction? I don't know if they could monitor her in a clinical environment afterwards, or offer a different version? Admittedly I don't know if this is possible but it may be worth asking?

Actually I don't have to respect a decision that is wrong. The op doesn't know by her own admission what the vaccine is for. How can that be nformed and educated?