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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

For thinking i shouldn't be getting constantly pestered by the local nurse and GP team to get my daughter immunises when i've repeatedly told them my answer is no?

499 replies

Lowla · 28/09/2012 14:57

My daughter is 4. She got all her jabs as a baby, but i stopped at the MMR one. Since we missed the appointment, i've been getting loads of letters to invite us to the clinic for the MMR jab and now her school booster jab for some other virus. (Hib or something like that).

I've phoned the GP and asked them not to send any more letters out as i've chosen not to get her immunised any further for my own personal reasons, and worries over her last reactions to the jabs. And now i've got some nurse calling me asking to do a home visit next week to 'check on me and dd'. I asked 'is this about the jabs?' and she said, rather reluctantly, 'yes'.

AIBU for feeling like they should respect my decision?

Sorry for the bad grammar. Writing this in a rush as i have to run and get dd from school.

OP posts:
TalkinPeace2 · 28/09/2012 17:20

Sometimes
please do NOT be suspicious of the MMR. It is an excellent and safe jab that has saved thousands of lives and the truth has won out against the jerk Wakefield and his lies.

CakeMeIAmYours · 28/09/2012 17:21

Whether or not a vaccine 'wears off' depends largely on how strong the individual's antibody response to it was in the first place.

It is a function of the individual, not the vaccine.

You can give the same batch of the same vaccine to a number of individuals and get a widely different response to it.

alistron1 · 28/09/2012 17:21

People who don't vaccinate their kids - do you vaccinate your pets?!

TalkinPeace2 · 28/09/2012 17:22

Freddos
You would deny your child antibiotics and antivirals if they caught a serious disease? Really ?

CakeMeIAmYours · 28/09/2012 17:22

If everyone did it privately, the NHS might bring back the individual ones

If everyone did it privately, the Government's health economists would be jumping for joy! Smile

RosemaryHoyt · 28/09/2012 17:25

YABU

Oo bigoted me thinking that those that can be vaccinated, should be vaccinated.

If your GP had advised not vaccinating due to the 'reactions' I would think you quite R. But since even you own HCP has advised you this course is not for the best, you have deliberately refused to act against medical advice. This is not in any child's best interests. Thus I hope they do not respect your decision and continue to follow up.

If that makes me a bigot, GOOD.

SpottedGurnard · 28/09/2012 17:27

There's no way the NHS will do individual MMR vaccines. They have found it to be safe and economical. Why would they offer a more expensive (and unnecessary) regimen?

Flojo1979 · 28/09/2012 17:27

I agree with Rosemary

Roseformeplease · 28/09/2012 17:32

If people choose not to immunise their child and cause an outbreak or make those who cannot have immunisations very ill, or worse, can the rest of us choose to expect them to pay for the consequences? The cost of treating the OP's child, and those who get infected, and those who have lifetime complications, and the "cost" of death (emotional and financial) must be taken into account. OP, start saving up because when I rule the world your refusal to immunise will mean you pay for any treatment required as a result.

SpottedGurnard · 28/09/2012 17:32

I'm a bigot too. A horrible bigot who has read the papers and studied epidemiology .

lljkk · 28/09/2012 17:32

There used to be a rabid anti-vaxer, animal-rightist on MN who didn't vaccinate her pets either. She lost all my respect with that admission.

bethjoanne · 28/09/2012 17:35

hi i delayed my childs vaccines and she had ended up very ill in hospital with meningitis. my child will need checks regulary for damage to the brain and hearing loss.i would never have dreament it would happen to my child.she was in contact with a child with an ear infection and high temp a week before.
hib vaccines protect against infections in the brain and spinal cord -meningitis.septicaemia and pnuemonia.
please read nhs choicse meningitis

bethjoanne · 28/09/2012 17:39

pleaes have your child vaccinated it out weighs the risk of serious ilness and death xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

CakeMeIAmYours · 28/09/2012 17:39

That's the problem though rose , each person who fails to immunise their DCs contributes to an overall risk. You could never pinpoint one individual who is 'responsible' so nobody takes responsibility.

People think 'oh, mine is only one more DC, that can't make any difference overall'. It does though. Sadly.

IvanaHumpalot · 28/09/2012 17:39

ItsAllGoingToBeFine water, actual water for an anti-malarial. F*ck me, really...

Outraged was it the Meadow's report that put you off the combined? Part of the problem was the availability and cost of the singles, and the reliability of some to come back for the second injections, which has added to today's issues.

Did you have any misgivings about the vaccinations for N Africa?

You can tell me to mind my own beeswax!

Ps: I'm drawing a line if they go over 25p.

Bossybritches22 · 28/09/2012 17:41

TalkInPeace & It'sallgoing

I understand fully, as I said after only 5/6 years we don't KNOW if it lasted a lifetime , it is THOUGHT to last a lifetime.

And no I won't be linking to any Wikipedia thread Talk as I said I like to RESEARCH things properly , by that I mean I will get proper medical reports from the Lancet et al . A used to nurse & I was trained & still like to base my actions on research based practice , froa wide range of sources.

For instance I have learned a lot about many medical things from Mumsnet guiding me to interesting articles. However if I disagree with someone I don't think it polite or neccessary to flame them. Grin

SpottedGurnard · 28/09/2012 17:43

Sorry, Freddos did you seriously just say that you would refuse your child antibiotics and antivirals if they got sick?

TalkinPeace2 · 28/09/2012 17:46

Bossybritches
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20733476 Boosters will not be necessary.
And if you hold off vaccinating your daughter till its too late, she will be at risk when those around her are not.

bethjoanne · 28/09/2012 17:46

please read-- nhs choices meningitis causes--
mumps was the leading cause for meningitis.

CakeMeIAmYours · 28/09/2012 17:47

I think it is a very valid point that someone made upthread that because we have pretty much eradicated many diseases, we have become complacent about the seriousness of them.

Its ironic that it is programmes of vaccination that have caused this immunity in our society, yet now we have an enviable herd immunuty, it is that which is causing (some of) us to turn our backs on the idea.

I had a teacher who was disabled after surviving polio as a child - fucking horrible disease. Anyone thinking that the vaccines cause as much harm as the diseases themselves really needs to do more research.

saintlyjimjams · 28/09/2012 17:47

Aseptic meningitis - which is slightly different from the terribly scary meningitis.
.I can guess how this thread had gone. OP talk to your GP. Mine asked me for a letter so he coukdn't get the health authority off his back. I haven't had anything in years.

saintlyjimjams · 28/09/2012 17:48

Could not couldn't

VivaLeBeaver · 28/09/2012 17:48

Lowla, YANBU.

I got this every now and then from the GPs. It all came to a head when the receptionist rang me to make an appt (again), I explained (again) that I wouldn't be making one as dd had had single jabs.

Mutter, mutter, mutter.

Rang back 10 minutes later saying that as there was no record of batch numbers of dd's single jabs she ought to come in for mmr. So I got the red book out and gave them the batch numbers and exact dates, names of product used, etc.

Mutter, mutter, mutter.

10 minutes later they rang back telling me to come in with the red book so they could see it for themselves and I could prove that dd had had single jabs. I told them exactly what I thought of that and they've not bothered me since!

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 28/09/2012 17:49

Of course I didn't say I'd refuse my child antibiotics! Hmm Confused

But some parents do refuse their children life saving treatment for religious reasons or whatever, and I'm not sure whether I believe they should have the right to do that or not. Either way, we aren't talking about life saving treatment in a sick child here, we are talking about preventative medicine in a healthy child. And parents have to be allowed to make that choice.

Nanny0gg · 28/09/2012 17:51

This may have been answered already, but there's too many arguments to wade through.

If a child has a reaction to the jabs, would they also have the same (or even worse) reaction to the disease?