Too feel devastated for the wife of the teacher who has run off to France with his 15 year old pupil?

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What on earth went through his head when he decided to do this?! The poor woman has taken all her social networks down out of humiliation I presume. link

Crazy.

One of the science teachers in my school was shagging a girl from the upper-sixth. It was horrible. I remember being in C&A (yes, I am that old) one weekend with my school mates and seeing her buying an armful of silky thongs. She freely admitted she was buying them for his benefit. We all thought she was very sophisticated.

Sixth form pupil at our school married Science teachet, had two children, ten years before I attended tbe same school. They were happily married with two children. Obvipusly the pupil was over tbe age of sixteen. Sometimes it works out.

But the gossip was still flying around :)

In the case at my school the teacher was very much into this girl and tried to put his house in her name. Hid daugher was in my year and had a nervous breakdown. Not surprising. The girl's mum came along and the entire thing was halted but the teacher left - pretty fast.

SoleSource, where did you go to school if you don't mind me asking?

Lmao! Not saying sorry :)

The deputy head at a school I briefly attended, had married a former pupil and had 2 children with her, she was when I went there a teacher at the school while he was deputy head.

He then had an affair with a girl in the upper sixth, left his wife and shacked up with the girl. He infamously drove her to the leavers ball!

That school was at it like rabbits though, I think half the teachers were married or involved and I remember one female PE teacher left her husband for the other female PE teacher who was married to my french teacher. Nothing the pupils ever did was more interesting than the teachers, the gossip was endless.

Pm you bup lol

Sent Bup

Giveitago gawd!

Pan it's only contempt if it prejudices a fair trial, that would only happen if we (the HM) were discussing matters that would be in admissible in the course of a trial should there be one.

If there was to be a trial (on whatever charge) the fact that there were previous concerns regarding the pair in question would likely be admissible therefore no prejudice ergo no contempt

He'll certainly be out of a job. I know of two ex-colleagues who've been fired for this:

1. Young male teacher, v handsome, all year 9-11 girls & half the younger female teaching staff giddy over him. On a residential trip, year 11 girl texted him (we all have school mobiles on trips in case kids get lost) asking if he'd like her to pop to his room later...to which he replied no, but tell your mate X she'd be very welcome. Subsequently observed snogging X at prom some weeks later.

2. Teacher in early 30s, married with dc, parents of y11 girl complained he'd been sending her inappropriate texts. She'd initially been flattered then asked him to stop - when he didn't she told her mother. Entire female staff under 30 had also been sent slightly flirty texts by this teacher, as it turned out.

Both suspended immediately. In each case it took a few months before they were officially dismissed (in fact I think bloke 1 eventually resigned just ahead of the chop).

In each case, no suggestion that under 16s were involved. It's about the teacher/student relationship - completely unacceptable.

Now Im not saying this situation is ok, its not he was a teacher, in a position of trust and he should have kept a lid on his emotions.

But 15yr olds are not stupid little girls all the time.
My boyfriend when I was 15 was 9.5 yrs older than me, we are still together 15 years later so its not always infatuation, its not somone having an innaporpriate thoughts etc to a younger girl.

But overall, leaving the country how stupid, I really hope she comes home soon

Thoughts also with the scumbags wife

it is not victim blaming to suggest that a fifteen year old knows her own mind. Of course the teacher was in the wrong to take the relationship further, but we cannot be sure that she didn't instigate things in the first place; that the emotions she are feeling aren't real, etc. At sixteen she is old enough to give consent, there isn't a magic button that is pressed on a child's sixteenth birthday which suddenly means they are ready to have sex.

What makes this inappropriate is the fact that this man was in a position of trust, not the age difference (although one might question that).

But ultimately we simply cannot see this whole consent issue as black and white. Because if having sex under sixteen is illegal and means that a child under the age of sixteen cannot be held accountable, then surely we need to examine the whole issue, if not responsible to have sex then not responsible if she gets pregnant and maybe baby should be removed? and if not, why not? It's very easy to sit there and say the man is scum and she is a victim. But in truth he is an idiot for having abused his power and position of trust, but she may be a willing participant, and when she turns sixteen she will be a legally consenting participant.

The Mother of the girl is on ITV at 10 now. I haven't seen it yet .

Whatever she feels for him he should have stopped it.

He's the adult, the teacher. He's the only one in the wrong here.

Apologies if this sounds like a stupid question, but as she's only 15 could he be charged with kidnapping too?

No, she went freely, it seems and she is old enough to give consent to travel away from guardian.

Sarah - your post re contempt seems a bit confused re admissiblity and prejudice. I think.

There's no question who's in the wrong here, and it's not a fifteen year old girl.

She's fifteen. He's a (supposedly) responsible adult, twice her age, in a position of trust.

There's no way, none at all this is her fault, even if she had a crush on him our whatever the hell she did or didn't do.

His fault. Full stop.

Honestly, teachers get training in this, ie. yes you may well get some teenager giving you the glad eye. Here's what you do about it.

(Clue: 'book the both of you on a ferry to forn parts' = wrong answer).

It does not matter if a 15 year old is mature, has sexual feelings for the teacher, etc.

Whether this lass may theoretically have instigated anything or not is wholly irrelevant. What he's done is a sacking offence & prosecutable. He will have known this, as a qualified teacher. NO excuses.

• or, not our.

LivingThing has just raised the issue of consent age being 15 in France. Maybe it's been well worked out before hand.....

It isn't anything to do with her knowing her own mind, being mature, wanting to be sexually active.

Nothing.

No matter what she did, he shouldn't have reciprocated, because he is her teacher.

She could have followed him home, stripped off and got into bed with him, and he should have got out and walked away.

As a teacher, he knows that child protection rules bar him from ever being alone with a pupil.

Pan, he has still breached all sorts of child safety rules by even being in a car with her, disregarding the tweeting, the messaging, and the taking her out of the country without her consent.

Even with sex out of the equation he has done enough to be out of a job and barred from ever working with children.