To think: if you can fly first class, you shouldn't have a council house?

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Facebook friends of mine (friends of RL friends really) making lots of comments this week about their impending holiday to Mauritius on which they'll be flying first class and staying in a 5 star hotel.

This couple have lived in a council house for many years (no kids yet), though this year so far she has got a new (not brand new, a year or two old but still v nice) BMW and he has a new Ducati.

One of their friends has commented on FB "Wow, did you win the lottery?!" and the wife replied "no we just saved a long time for our dream holiday".

First class flights to Mauritius are £4k each. A week in a 5 star hotel must be at least £2k and probably more. That's £10k for a week's holiday. AIBU to think that if people can squirrel away that much money for a holiday, they shouldn't be living in a bloody council house subsidised by taxes from the rest of us?

i aspire to be like the OP

2 degrees, nice holidays, own home, own absolutely lovely car! well paid job and 1st class company flights, DCs wanting for nothing, a life that is so pretty damn fantastic that I would not jealous of anyone

yup, i think it would be just great to be in cloud cockoo land her world

Oh God, they've started with the goats again

Time to leave

It's supposed to be 3 degrees here tonight, or is it farenheight or celcius?

I always get those 3 mixed up, sorry I saw something about degrees and I live in a Council House which is in a, dare I say it.... "nice area" consideringwherewelive

So I am obviously unemployable, thick and have lots of money and how can I forget a single/lone parent!

Any suggestions for a holiday next year? I haven't had one for 3 years....

Centre Parcs is extortionate btw Sun hols all the way for us !!

What I am saying, is what you are all squabbling about, is but a small piece of a much greater issue.

The state (UK) cannot afford the current welfare payments. And that includes the NHS.

A harsh fact that you need to absorb. Because it is a fact, and not an opinion. Brace yourselves.

i keep going to 'like' other peoples posts, i spend far too much time on FB

Please don't leave outraged, you haven't answered my question about NMW :)
( I promise to never mention goats on MN if you do)

Like!

Oh good you have stopped.

fucking detest these threads!

Wrong, Abit; we can, IF- and only if- we chase those who do not pay taxes for their full due.

What was that? Anti private industry? Oh OK, I shall ask DH, owner of a business whether he thinks I am; and then I shall ask myself as I seem to have one too....

I just pay my tax dues.

DS3 will always need welfare, he is disabled. my BIL suggests eythanasia as a solution.

Anyhoo. Council houses- Mum and dad have one, they are in Ibiza. Shock! people will yell.

Well no.

They, like a great many in my home town, lost their entire pension when the fund was bought by an American Company who used the assets to clear asbestos claims. That is legal in the USA. Now, Dad still works- can;t do his original job any more so at 70 cleans out the machines used for mechanical meat recovery. And every year they save, and have a holiday abroad. Good.

I pay a private landlord, and I like it hrre. However council have already told us that should she ask us to go (house is in trust for her kids, will happen one day) nobody will house us in private as a family with 3 disabled children- even having 4 boys without the disability would be a nono apparently. Anyway as such we will be on the emergency housing list (the boy's SN). Will this then remove DH's BSc, close his business? no. Will it remove his long employment history? not that either. Will it take my BA, my soon-to-finish MA? Hope not, it's taken years of part time slog!

Judge not, lest ye be fucked over by random genetics.

Abitwobblynow has spoken.

And that's it I've completely changed my views now.

I think it was the 'brace yourself' that did it.

Burn the poor!

People who live in council houses shouldn't be holidaying in Ibiza either. They should be working to better themselves and aspire , not taking advantage of low rents to slack. We are subsidising their lavish party holiday.

theinets I take it you are actually joking there?

I seriously hope so LST.

He's seventy FFS! He worked all his life, he has never had ANY benefits at all! As for aspiring- ha! He was 15 / 16 kids, he survived that childhood (worked age 5, permanently drunk father and disabled mum, often had to eat what they had poached or go without). He didn;t turn into a lifelong alcoholic like several of his siblings. He did work, worked hard, ended up with a decent job but Mum couldn't work due to the effects of 5 stillbirths on her MH. H used to do 16 days of 12 hours shifts regularly during my childhood. He saved every penny for his pension, he had enough put by to buy a bungalow and to live off; but now he is seventy, he can only work part time, he has no pension and just his PT MW job. Every spare penny we had as kids went on our education- which is presumably why as a sibling group we all have decent career paths and CVs.

WTF should he be doing to better himself? Seriously? Maybe he could get an apprenticeship, yes? Gap year? I mean- huh? ? All that money will do is be put aside for me, and I am fine with not having it. I want them to have their last couple of years with a few of the things they never did before. Their rent isn't cheaper than surrounding area, the area is VERY undesirable... and they will be dead all too soon.

(Sorry, oinsult me and I get upset; insult my dad and I fight!)

So I understand the philosophy.

Anyone poorer than me (and that's subjective) shouldn't do anything I do, or anything I think they shouldn't be doing?

C'mon theinets - say what you really mean .... - yer getting the smiley face as I know you were joking.....you WERE joking weren't you?

And of course beans only earns a lwoer wage because they slacked and didn't work hard at school.

It would seem that there are NO Poor Graduates, and No Hardworkers Living In Council Houses.

hahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Let us hope nobody with that mindset ever has need for a careworker, eh? or a nurse who may well live in a CH in a city; or a ... well yes

Can I ask a question? It will most likely be a thick one.... but anyway,

all those us Council House people, or Housing Associations people, where are we supposed to be? You know if we don't live in these houses which seem to annoy some people so much?

Where do we go?

Bean, I am NOT saying that! Where did I say I hated and despised the poor?

God, why do lefties immediately personalise everything they don't like? "I don't like what you said/therefore you are evil/therefore I don't have to think about what you say, it can be dismissed as evil, because you are evil."

WHATEVER you disapprove of, 3 - 5 will ALWAYS equal - 2, and not even good intentions can get rid of that.

The West CANNOT afford their welfare provisions. Welfare provisions are, therefore, going to change.

And mocking me will not take that fact away.

I do envy some people, vt, just not the ones in question.

Yes, I'm quite happy with my life. I don't see what the problem with that is. Presumably if I came on going "My life is shit, I have to work so hard to pay the bills that I am permanently knackered, and even though I have a lovely holiday every year and a nice car and my house is comfortable and I earn £££££, it's just not enough", you'd find that rather objectionable.

Ah right okay thank you Usual so move out of here and go and move into a nice 3 bedroom house and get benefits to pay £800 per month, then. Now I get it.