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To think: if you can fly first class, you shouldn't have a council house?

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Mexxo · 19/09/2012 22:32

Facebook friends of mine (friends of RL friends really) making lots of comments this week about their impending holiday to Mauritius on which they'll be flying first class and staying in a 5 star hotel.

This couple have lived in a council house for many years (no kids yet), though this year so far she has got a new (not brand new, a year or two old but still v nice) BMW and he has a new Ducati.

One of their friends has commented on FB "Wow, did you win the lottery?!" and the wife replied "no we just saved a long time for our dream holiday".

First class flights to Mauritius are £4k each. A week in a 5 star hotel must be at least £2k and probably more. That's £10k for a week's holiday. AIBU to think that if people can squirrel away that much money for a holiday, they shouldn't be living in a bloody council house subsidised by taxes from the rest of us?

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PropertyNightmare · 20/09/2012 14:31

Who cares really? I would not want to live in a council house so no feelings if animosity from me.

Mexxo · 20/09/2012 14:31

sixlostmonkeys, not really. I just read the FB updates, and looked on Expedia and at the hotel. Total time, oooohhhh, about 3 mins while eating my sandwich at lunchtime. It was that or read the Daily Mail online which of course I love because I really subscribe to the editorial line on council house occupants.

Grow up.

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sixlostmonkeys · 20/09/2012 14:31

so, really it's the customers paying for the ticket?

sixlostmonkeys · 20/09/2012 14:34

you grow up!

you started it

Grin
Mexxo · 20/09/2012 14:34

Wrong again sixlostmonkeys. I'm attending a conference, as I said on that thread. My firm is paying.

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Prarieflower · 20/09/2012 14:36

Sorry anybody able to have a 5K holiday shouldn't be in a council house-so very,very wrong.YANBU

There are so many families out there in need of a decent home.

Council houses should be for the needy in need of a home.When you're no longer needy ie able to go bloody Mauritius and buy expensive cars you move out. It's totally immoral not

This is the whole reason there is so little council housing stock and it's utterly ridiculous.

Mexxo · 20/09/2012 14:36

But if it were a client matter and the client were paying, that would be entirely appropriate also. Clients can choose which firm to use and I guess if they want a top tier international firm then they are prepared to shell out for the privilege.

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Kayano · 20/09/2012 14:36

I blame thatcher

Toastwithatwist · 20/09/2012 14:38

Toastwithatwist t I doubt you have looked for flights on the dates when they're going, and I haven't identified the particular hotel, which features in Condé Nast Traveller etc and cannot be done for less than £2k (and that is in rainy season rather than the more expensive period when they are actually going.

So you have priced it up? Wow, that's going some. And, of course, airlines and hotels never have special offers or package deals... Even if they have spent the amount you say, what business it is of yours?

VinegarTits · 20/09/2012 14:38

Good for you OP Smile is business class only reserved for home owners/private renters?

p.s they probably dont own the nice cars they drive, they give HP to anyone these days, even council tenants Shock

maybe they plan to move out and live a tent when they come home? or have they already told you they their furture plans via facebook?

hang on Hmm they live in a council house and can afford broadband? Shock they should be burned at the stake, obvioulsy some sort of withcarftery going on with them two

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VinegarTits · 20/09/2012 14:43

STOP - there is more to this than meets the eye they drive a BMW, they are going on holiday first class to Mauritus, their friends think they may have won the lottery....

.....they've won the ITV daybreak competition!

Prarieflower · 20/09/2012 14:43

Thing is private owners/renters aren't living in subsidised housing that is supposed to be for the needy so they can foolishly take out all the HP they want imho.

I pay my taxes so people who need a home get one not to provide homes for people who holiday in Mauritius and have expensive cars.

I can't see how anybody can justify this,total and utter madness.Would be nice if a gov could grow a pair and sort this out.Maybe then we wouldn't have children suffering in damp,shitty accommodation because council waiting lists are so long.

sixlostmonkeys · 20/09/2012 14:44

Wrong again sixlostmonkeys. I'm attending a conference, as I said on that thread. My firm is paying.

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VinegarTits · 20/09/2012 14:48

Kim do you know them? do you know they have had a significant change in income? do you know they havnt spent the last 20 years saving their £2 coins in large empty smurnoff bottle?

youre going off 3rd - 4th hand speculation from the OP who doesnt even know them that well and spends to much time on FB

we know nothing about this couple and their cirumstances, they might have 3 months to live for all we know, but have just decided not to put it on their FB status, stop listening to fb gossip and get out more OP

Abitwobblynow · 20/09/2012 14:49

The issue here is to change the way that resources are allocated: ie not through inefficient govt and it's agencies (benefits offices, councils, etc).

The problem is not in wealth redistribution, the problem is in the system and how it is set up! ie inefficient, wasteful and rewarding bad choices. If the money is given straight to the people, without these third party agencies (and benefits should NEVER accompany babies)...

Not that brainwashed Britain could EVER get their heads round this concept.

Mexxo · 20/09/2012 14:50

Well, sixlostmonkeys, the firm gets its money from its profits, from doing business, yes. But it is the partners', not clients', money. Do you have a problem with a capitalist economy in which businesses can charge for services and clients can freely choose what level of service they want to pay for?

Following your reasoning, you might say that the people going on the luxury holiday have got the money from the state by living in cheap housing and thereby being able to save their income which otherwise would have to go on commercial rent.

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Mexxo · 20/09/2012 14:53

Vinegartits, if you had read the thread instead of piling in with your misguided and erroneous assumptions, you'd know that I DO know these people fairly well but they live quite a way from me. I see them 5 or 6 times a year socially.

I spend a few minutes at lunchtime every day on FB. Not sure what on earth would make you think I spend "far too much time on FB" unless you think being on there at all is too much. I read my friends' status updates. Big wow.

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Prarieflower · 20/09/2012 14:55

I don't care how they got the cash but they have the cash to get a deposit out on private housing so therefor should be in private housing.The money they've "saved"could have gone on the hike in rent they'd have paid.

Just to add I'm amazed anybody could save money like that and spend it on non essentials like cars and exotic holidays in times like this.Very few people are able to save at the moment.

BlackberryIce · 20/09/2012 14:55

So the old lady down the road be kicked out if her council house (3 bed) because it's just her in it?

BlackberryIce · 20/09/2012 14:56

*should

VinegarTits · 20/09/2012 14:56

should you live in a council house if you smoke? cos if you can afford gigs then you can afford to move out cant you

they could have saved the price of a pack of fags for the last 10 years for that holiday, but oh no, they can afford to save they can afford to move out, its that B&W

are poeple in social housing not allow any pleasures? would you be complaining if they were going to Center Parks?

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