To think Kate Middleton should have kept her tits in

[moogster1a]

Surely she can't be unaware that she's one of the most photographed women in the world and there are paparazzi everywhere.
I know in an ideal lovely world she should be able to skinny dip in privacy, but in the real world I think she is being a bit naiive to go topless and then be so upset when the pictures are published

Out of interest where would you cut off people taking photo's?

YANBU. I immediately thought, why would you take the risk. In a perfect world she would be able to sunbathe topless at a private residence, but unfortunately it's not perfect.

I'm a republican, I don't think we should have the Royals as our representatives. Nothing against them personally, I just dislike the fawning over them and their titles, when I just see a privileged family, rather than extraordinary blood.

Myneighbour,

It is interesting. The Uk seems to be a bit muddled on this, but the US laws are clear. From wiki and it makes eminent sense:

Members of the public have virtually no privacy rights when they are in public places. Basically, anyone can be photographed without consent except when they have secluded themselves in places where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy such as dressing rooms, restrooms, medical facilities, or inside a private residence. This legal standard applies regardless of the age, sex, or other attributes of the individual

Photographing private property from within the public domain is legal, with the exception of an area that is generally regarded as private, such as a bedroom, bathroom, or hotel room

Many places have laws prohibiting photographing private areas under a person's clothing without that person's permission. This also applies to any filming of another within a public restroom or locker room.

Prince Phillip isn't known for his virtuous character - he's certainly a racist. But really don't see what he has to do with the discussion anyhow...

It seems like a nightmare to sort out, it can't be different privacy laws for different people based on an accident of birth.

Doesn't really matter what the US law says, as it doesn't affect us or this particular situation. As far as I understand it, in this instance, it is French law as the photos were taken in France by a French journalist /photographer & fisrt published there. The French have far more stringent privacy laws than we have in the UK. However, French publications will flout those laws on occasions when the publicity and income generated from boosted sales are likely to offset the fines levied against them. So, it really is no more than "tits sell papers".

Just in case anyone is interested in the UK, our privacy rights (such as they are) derive from the European Convention on Human Rights where Article 8 provides a right to respect for one's "private and family life, his home and his correspondence", subject to certain restrictions that are "in accordance with law" and "necessary in a democratic society".

No, I think in US it would probably be legal to take these photos. She was on a terrace (so not in bedroom or bathroom), the photos we taken from a public spot, so no trespass. Plus it was not an 'under the skirt' set of photos, she had taken her clothes off.

But France is stricter, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. My gut instinct is that the monarchy is handling this badly. The public must be getting a bit tired of this melodrama and anguish from the royals, while at the same time being shown photos of the couple laughing and waving on their Asian jaunt.

Xposted, by no I meat notmyneighbour

According to DM William now wants.everyone involved arrested.

If only the public were. If only the press would spend less time reporting tit shots & give coverage to all the genuinely good work going on that is covered by the royals or not. The huge national charity I work for, has a photographer at every event (not just the ones the royals turn up to) - but can we ever get any press interest - hardly ever. It is not "sexy" enough - too worthy, too "inane" as someone posted. I know its not just the charity I work for, I rarely see charitable activity reported on. Or what about all the great stuff being done by teachers, doctors, nurses, care workers and so on. Again, lots of royal visits to open schools, daycare centres, hospitals etc etc - but how often do we see coverage?

Salacious gossip about celeb figures, which adds no value to our society whatsoever is reported all the time - there are even magazines whose sole purpose is to report this kind of stuff - but really great work being carried out by volunteers and public sector works all the time - no interest.

I'd love to start a paper that just reported positive things - not fluffy rabbits - but real stories about all the great work that is done by ordinary people all the time, but we never pay attention to, because we're too busy talking about royal tits.

I hope they are. The media is proving to be too powerful, it needs knocking down a peg or two

I am seeing a Man who lost his Mum too young, he is projecting.protectiveness towards his Mum onto Kate and he scapegoated the press. It must be hard to feel anger towards those in the Palace and within his family.

I think Levenson certainly brought the press down a few pegs in this country, elsewise I don't doubt for a second that these images would have been in all the tabloids and adverts about the "sensational snaps" would have gone on for days. Its been quite muted. Of course the French printed them, tits are nothing to cover up there, the Irish printed as well let's be honest they hate the Monarchy, and the Italian one is owned by Berlusconi, not the most chaste man ever.
I doubt very much the pap will be arrested, they were taken in France and our Monarchy has not much if any klout over there at all. They will sue the mags that print them, obviously, an Editor will be sacked and we'll all giggle over it in a few years.

BTW, I like Kate, I'm not a massive flag waving Royal lover, but I do like her. She strikes me as quite normal, I loved her unabashed cheering at the Olympics- the Queen would usually have sat tight lipped and politely clapping. I think she has loosened up the Monarchy- after all, can anyone imagine the Queen doing the Bond sketch a few years back?

Palace have announced that a criminal complaint will be lodged in the French courts in the morning.

If the pics were deemed to have been legally taken-could they sue for the fact that they were printed?

The Bond sketch-due to Kate??!!

Not directly, but I have noticed a new attitude in them of late, a more relaxed vibe.

criminal or civil?

I don't really like her if I am honest and I can't see what all the fuss is. she is just a middle class girl who got very very lucky. ooooo it could have been/should have been me hahaha. No joking aside I would not swap places with her for all the dosh in the world, I enjoy my private none existence and the fact people don't know me from Adam :)
I would loath being in the public eye and having my every move or lb weight gain photographed.

BBC 1 news just now suggested they will make a criminal complaint first and if that is dismissed they will pursue a civil action.

More here

Can the Palace do that?
It would have to be the French equivalent of the CPS, no?

As an aside, have you seen what Channel 5 are broadcasting on Tuesday? A programme titled "Wills and Kate: Baby Fever" which is described as "Royal experts discuss the possibility of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge having a child and speculate on how they might deal with the challenges of parenthood."

I can't be the only one to think its a total non-story, and yet more cashing in.

Blimey!

How many nannies to have?

Eton or not?

Such decisions!!

God the girl looks like she needs to eat before she gets pregnant. They just clutch at straws- one minute she was definitely harbouring a child, now we've all seen (or I have) that there is not a chance of that being the case (washboard flat gut for a start), its speculation on when she'll get pregnant. What is the rush?

Perhaps there's needs to be consideration that a) they don't want kids or b) they can't have kids. Just because they are royal doesn't mean they are immune to that reality after all.

Diana was scanned before Charles proposed, to check everything that everything at least looked in order (for some reason my consultant volunteered this info when my first DC had an 11 wk scan - same scanner he said). Kate might well have been asked to do the same, to rule out obvious problems.

If they are unlucky enough not to be able to have kids then that puts the question of Harry's paternity right back under the spotlight. Even though he's legally next in line, that's not in question.