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to want Emilia Fox to put weight on?

78 replies

bogeyface · 13/09/2012 23:36

She is such a beautiful woman, but she looks old and drawn since she got "hollywood skinny". She looked so much better when she had a little more weight on her, not much, still slim, but not super skinny.

Her eyes and cheeks are sunken, her teeth and eyes looks too big for her head and her neck is quite scrawny. Just put half a stone on love!

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bobbledunk · 14/09/2012 23:41

She doesn't look thin, just old and saggy. That's aging, not anorexia.

bogeyface · 14/09/2012 23:44

She is younger than me Bobble, and I dont look like that!

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bogeyface · 14/09/2012 23:45

And I dont recall mentioning anorexia. There is a HUGE difference between unhealthily thin and anorexia, anorexia is a mental health issue as much as an eating issue and I am a bit pissed off at your implication.

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Mintyy · 14/09/2012 23:59

So you don't think she looks thin bobbledunk?

Do you have any examples of people who you would describe as thin?

If you don't think she is thin then the mind boggles.

squoosh · 15/09/2012 00:10

Women's bodies have become objects of such casual discussion/praise/criticism that it can be hard to look at someone and say 'yes they are very fat/thin' and see it as a comment purely on that individual rather than a contribution towards the general chatter about women's bodies in the tabloid press. All the weekly celeb rags will have the same stories, ranging from, too thin celebs/cellulite celebs/sod the diet celebs/comfort eating heartbroken celebs etc.

Personally I think Emilia Fox looks sad.

bobbledunk · 15/09/2012 00:10

Bogey; I don't know, could just be unflattering photos, she doesn't look unhealthy though. She looks good for her age, probably would look a bit better in the face and neck with an extra couple of pounds but maybe she wouldn't feel as good with them. Or maybe the weight would just go straight to her stomach or hips so it would be pointless anyway, the amount of weight gain needed to plump her upper body mightn't be the most comfortable for her. She's not going to have the tone and skin plumpness of a twenty year old.

Do you think I was trying to imply that you were calling her anorexic? I didn't mean to, bad choice of words on my part because that's not what you were saying so sorry for that. I guess I do equate unhealthy thin with anorexia... they are hugely different I suppose...

bobbledunk · 15/09/2012 00:13

Mintyy; thin maybe, she looks quite athletic with her muscular arms, very slender and toned... not too thin though.

MaisyMooCow · 15/09/2012 00:30

I'm so used to seeing her in re-runs where she's young so when I see her now she immediately looks so much older.

Casmama · 15/09/2012 00:35

More to the point, when exactly was Donna Air last a TV presenter? Did she not do a year or two after Byker Grove then get knocked up by a millionaire and now is only ever seen at showbiz parties or is that very unkind and untrue?

MaisyMooCow · 15/09/2012 00:38

Ooh Donna Air....the talented one Hmm Grin

squoosh · 15/09/2012 00:42

I did laugh at Donna Air a few months ago, she was being tried for parking permit fraud (slightly ott?). In her defense her own lawyer said "I hope she will not criticise me too severely but I expect there was not a great deal going on in Miss Air's head but hot air,"

She strikes me as someone who's holding out for a v rich husband. She'll probably get one.

bogeyface · 15/09/2012 00:58

I have to admit that Donna Air is just a name to me, I have no idea who she is or what she does (or doesnt!) do for a living. It just struck me that although she is noticably slimmer, she doesnt look so thin and inhealthy which makes me think that EF is striving for an unattainable goal that is doing her health (and yes, her looks) no good at all.

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GhouliaYelps · 15/09/2012 01:05

She has absolutely killed herself to get that thin that is v clear. This is a v unnatural body shape for her. She is a big girl and I will save my sympathy in this instance.

Megan74 · 15/09/2012 06:46

"She's a big girl".

Good grief.

Bonsoir · 15/09/2012 06:52

I cannot stand that too thin, too muscly look! Give me a softer, more curvaceous body any day. We were on holiday in Italy and all the women look fabulous because they had a fine coating of fat under their skin and weren't bulging with muscles (à l'américaine) or skin-and-bones thin like French women.

limitedperiodonly · 15/09/2012 06:53

No Mintyy she may not be naturally that thin. What business is it of yours?

If you and bogey care so passionately about her health why not stop picking her apart and go round her house every day and give her a sandwich?

EdMcDunnough · 15/09/2012 07:01

I don't care - it's her body, her weight and she probably has as little control over it as the rest of us do.

Let her get on with it FGS.

Oh and in those awful pictures it's the crappy design of the dress, that would suit no one with its cinched wasitline thingy going on.

I do hate these threads. It's none of our business. And no, it does NOT cause eating disorders to see someone who is thin.

GhouliaYelps · 15/09/2012 13:29

I mean she is a big girl as in she is a grown up

Mintyy · 15/09/2012 14:33

I don't know her personally but of course I care to some extent if someone is ill.

What kind of argument is "its none of your business?".

Am I only allowed to have opinions on things which relate directly to me?

I could say that having pictures of increasingly shrinking women all over the media are of concern to me as I have a body-conscious 11 year old daughter to worry about. Seeing pictures of thin people does not cause anorexia, no, but it does contribute to the body dissatisfaction that leads to the beginning of calorie restriction that in some people leads on to anorexia or disordered eating. All the studies on anorexia that I have ever read cite cultural pressure as a contributing factor, among other factors.

limitedperiodonly · 15/09/2012 15:08

You are of course allowed opinons on all sorts of things. One of my opinions is that people should be criticised for expressing hurtful comments about other people's appearance, especially when they try to dress it up as concern.

If she has an eating disorder you aren't going to change that. If she's lost weight because another serious illness, or because of upset over her broken relationship, as someone else mentioned, you're not going to help that either. If just she likes being thin she'd probably tell you it's got nothing to do with you.

I'm glad you're not one of those people who think anorexia is as simple as seeing pictures of thin girls even if in the next breath you go on to say it is.

It's no one elses responsibility to be a role model to your daughter. If you believe it is you are going to be constantly dismayed over a lot of things complete strangers do.

bogeyface · 15/09/2012 15:15

Limited she did say that anorexia was about seeing pictures of thin girls "in the next breath", she stated that it is a known factor that can lead to anorexia. It would not do it on its own but in a person already having other factors in their life, then it could contribute.

And my comments were not intended to be hurtful, but the fact does remain that being a public figure and being unhealthily thin or fat (or drunk or on drugs or whatever) is not a good role model and I do not apologise for saying that.

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Mintyy · 15/09/2012 16:02

I think you take an extraordinarily defensive stance on this limitedperiodonly and so I can only assume I have touched a nerve with you and if I have I apologise. I haven't made hurtful comments about Emilia Fox. I see dangerously thin people and I worry for them.

MrDobalina · 15/09/2012 16:29

I dont read limiteds posts as defensive at all. I think you have put your own slant on them mintyy in order that you are able to further your point

EF is in the public eye because of her acting talents...she has no responsibility to anyones daughters

the arts and entertainments would be incredibly dull, if everyone involved needed to be exemplary role-models to our youth Hmm

HmmThinkingAboutIt · 15/09/2012 16:44

Thin = Anoerixa = about as ignorant as you get.

Here's a Biscuit for all the Feeders.

By that I mean all the fuckwits who feed the media and the social bitching about people appearance and makes them insecure and unhappy with their bodies regardless of their size and eating habits.

YOU are the problem. Not women who are in the public eye and apparently have to be the moral guardians of everyone else. YOU are just passing the blame from yourselves. The media responds to the public just as much as the public responds to the media. It is not a one way street.

The sooner all the idiots wake up to this and stopped buying crappy magazines that tear apart celebs personal lives or print 'their real life story' the sooner it will stop.

The media only do it because it makes them money.

Lueji · 15/09/2012 17:11

I can't put on weight.
Everyone who knows me knows that I eat good portions and healthily.
By bmi is underweight.

Should I be banned from acting if that's what I wanted to do?

I am also a mother and example for my child. Should I be criticised for having children?

You are being very unreasonable, OP.