To find Kim Marsh's wedding pictures in incredible bad taste

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Selling your wedding pictures may not be to my taste but each to their own but making money out of posing in your wedding dress with your dead son's ashes leaves an incredibly bad taste in my mouth.

I understand if she'd wanted to take the ashes as a private tribute but exploiting it for financial gain I find frankly disgusting.

'but I do judge her letting the magazine put that photo on the front cover as it has clearly been done to sell more mags... '

How is it clearly done to sell more mags?

Really expat. You don't think that Hello pick the pictures for their cover according to what is most likely to make people buy their magazine? [hmmm]

I think it's fine. People don't talk about bereavement and grief enough and if doing that brought her comfort then I don't see any reason why it should have been kept private

of course they do. But if you wouldn't be complaining about a picture of her and a live child on the cover, you shouldn't be complaining about this.

This is the over-riding point many seem to be missing.

I am perfectly happy that people express their views.
I am just a bit non plussed at the suggestion that one side of this discussion is being treated nastily.

For some of us this is a matter of passing comment - a photo on a magazine.
For some this is about their grief for the unimaginable -the loss of their child.

I am fairly certain who I think is entitled to feel the more aggrieved.

Personally, I do find it objectionable the way some celebrities seem to sell every bit of their lives to the celeb magazines. Every trauma, break up, bereavement, pain, heartache, has to be splashed all over the front of Hello or Heat or OK. Nothing is too private or special or personal or intimate for public consumption by total strangers.

You don't think that Hello pick the pictures for their cover according to what is most likely to make people buy their magazine??

I have close experience of this jusfloatingby and you're right.

Magazines choose their covers according to what their readers want to see and read.

So, by that logic most of them must agree with Kym Marsh rather than you.

It's in OK, not Hello, btw. As a journalist I've learned that careless inaccuracies upset the bereaved more than other people's perceptions of good taste.

Doesn't bother me at all. I think it is quite touching that she included her son. Not sure about the magazine deal but that is the same for any celebritiy wedding not specifically to do with her son. She probably didn't want him to be excluded from the family's special day-why should he be if that is her choice.

Whatever happens her son will always be a part of her family so it is natural to 'include him' if that is what she wants. Having been through the same type of loss as Kym twice over I know that people who haven't been through it don't understand. Even if they have been through it reacations can be different but they tend to understand much more than people who can't face up to infant death and feel uncomfortable and would rather us hide away than face up to the fact that yes sadly babies can die and it happens more often than we think.

My girls are part of my life always and if people think that is weird then I just know they are ignorant and have the luxury to be in that position. Unless you have been through the horrors of loosing a baby late in pregnancy then you really can't judge because you have no idea of the sheer agony and despair as well as isolation involved.

If anyone feels uncomfortable with it then that is their problem.

This is her way of dealing with the most traumatic event in her life. And so what she wants to share her sons ashes with the world so that the whole world knows he is still there with them, that he was here and he was real.

Some people hide it away and deal with it as privately as they can. Others want to shout it from the rooftops and let everyone know and remember their beautiful child.

Get a grip the lot of you and stop whinging about being called names etc and imagine how you would feel if you were Kim and you read this utter crap!

So, by that logic most of them must agree with Kym Marsh rather than you.

I wouldn't necessarily agree. People are often attracted to a magazine by headlines and photographs that make them curious or that they find a bit sensational.

Maybe those of us who think the photo is brave and lovely could find out Kym's twitter and send her some nice messages?

You can think what you like jusfloatingby.

I've only been doing this job for 25 years. What would I know about the core motives of people who produce magazines?

I can say though that comments such as yours would not find their way into the magazine.

Moomin I understand how you feel. I have IC too as well as a blood clotting problem with massive midtrimester loss rates without injecting heparin daily. To say i was scared throughout is a massive understatement. I doubted i would come out of it with a live baby. It was so hard coming up to the stages i lost DDs. I couldn't relate to other pregnant women who sailed through without a care in the world. Very luckily my stitch worked and DS is now 3. With a stitch chances are very good of live birth (90% I think) and mine was a rescue one (like Kyms I think) at 21 weeks which are much riskier (50% success). I took it easy, didn't go out unless had to, drank probiotics, had no baths etc etc. till 26 weeks. I had heavy bleeding and contractions throughout and was in/out hospital continually. I lost 4 babies in all; 2 later than 20 weeks. But I have 5 living DC too (from 4 pregnancies). Part of what is hard though is the isolation and the sort of things that people who have no idea have posted here. Sometimes they make you feel like a freakshow just by coping the best way you can. Thankfully alot of people are also lovely and empathetic. Hope everything goes very well for you in your pregnancy x

And I have been buying magazines for many many years and am aware that I don't always buy them because I 'agree' with everything on the cover.

By the way, I too work in the area of communications and I disagree with your final comment.

No comment critical of OK! or other women's magazines ever finds its way onto their pages.

I'm surprised you haven't noticed that given your keen study of the market.

You said 'no comments such as yours would find its way into the magazines'. Not specifically that OK or Hello wouldn't publish comments critical of themselves. Of course they wouldn't but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by that.

No, your quote is incorrect, justfloatingby

I said 'comments such as yours would not find their way into the magazine' meaning the OK!, the one I was talking about.

But that also goes for Hello!, the magazine you thought we were talking about, and all other magazines in the women's weekly sector.

I'm sorry if you didn't understand that or were unable to quote correctly but I'm not surprised that you appear to be confused by my point.

Anyway, to drag it back to my main point: Kym Marsh can do whatever she likes and has more than enough pain on her plate to be worried about the views of people like you.

Are you sure you're a journalist limited? You don't argue your points very well and then resort to blaming the reader and personal insults when they don't 'get' you.

Yes jus I'm quite sure.

Really you two this is all rather pathetic, can you take your squabbling else where. Thank you.

Well, if you need a few tips on clarifying your points pm me. I have very wide experience in this area.

like a playground

Well, she started it.

jus I don't need to PM you.

Jacqueline and MyNeighbour thanks for your comments.

It's not me who is judging Kym Marsh harshly, by the way.

When I said this to jusfloatingby: Anyway, to drag it back to my main point: Kym Marsh can do whatever she likes and has more than enough pain on her plate to be worried about the views of people like you. I meant it.

I don't think people are posting on here in order to worry Kym Marsh with their views. They are commenting on an interesting point posed by the OP of this thread. Some people feel that the placing of the picture in a national magazine who were paying the bride for exclusive use of her wedding photographs was inappropriate, others found it moving. Obviously the topic has polarised people. I haven't seen many people saying she shouldn't grieve for her child or keep him always in her mind and at the centre of family events. It is the use of a posed photograph by OK or Hello magazine that some people have commented negatively on.