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To think Stephen Fry is NOT a national treasure

238 replies

SnowWide · 04/09/2012 21:32

Just listening to his English Delight on Radio4. Dire.

I've never understood all the adulation around him. He is accomplished, well-spoken, prolific. But so are many other actors and authors.

His TV documentaries, especially are really meh.. Dont get me wrong, they are very well made (the one where he travels America, another one on languages), but what exactly is the Stephen Fry touch? Any other knowledgeable presenter could fill his shoes and no one would know the difference...Only liked him as Melchett. Lost all respect for him when he started wittering away posting on Twitter, to be honest.

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noelstudios · 06/09/2012 14:26

Somebody will probably tweet this to him.
And if he reads it - STEPHEN, I LOVE YOU.

squoosh · 06/09/2012 14:31

Does he get alerted to every thing written about him?

I've suddenly got an image of his tweetees as the Flying Monkeys in The Wizard of Oz, the witch's foot soldiers.

kweggie · 06/09/2012 14:42

So dahlings, Uncle Jasper would just like to interject and utilising his considerable fund of bon mots and erudite, esoteric and aesthetically tongue-tickling teasers(oh that sounds jolly, rather naughty haw haw) will sum up the considerable confabulatory crossfire by saying that it's a case of Chacun a son gout(oh my, goo!sounds moist!haw haw!)and let's all agree to disagree. Must go , have to go and polish the leather on my elbow patches before drinks with the master of ..well, someone at Oxbridge. Would you like me to explain about Oxbridge on the way to the refectory? drone snore...

Lottapianos · 06/09/2012 15:38

Grin at kweggie

SoleSource · 06/09/2012 15:46

I have shagged Stephen

nosepeg · 06/09/2012 15:56

anyone described as a "national treasure" is always a sold-out washed-up fuck

end of

SnowWide · 06/09/2012 15:58

Oh noel, no no no, please don't be one of those groupies. I can picture you throwing your knickers at Stephen Smile

kweggie - that was priceless! Actually snorting with laughter...

A chacun a son gout, indeed...Which reminds me, lets keep moving people, nothing else to see here.

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squoosh · 06/09/2012 16:08

Put Stephen Fry, Barbara Windsor, Bruce Forsyth, Cliff Richard, Morrissey, Judi Dench and Ronnie Corbett in a confined space and see how they all get on.

BiscuitNibbler · 06/09/2012 16:09

Can we add Cilla to the mix, too?

squoosh · 06/09/2012 16:10

What's the collective term for national treasure?

An award of national treasures? An ego of national treasures? A yawn of national treasures?

squoosh · 06/09/2012 16:10

Cilla would get on famously with Morrissey. Perhaps.

nosepeg · 06/09/2012 16:11

and julie fucking walters

CrikeyOHare · 06/09/2012 16:19

anyone described as a "national treasure" is always a sold-out washed-up fuck Oh yeah - that describes David Attenborough & Judi Dench perfectly Hmm.

SnowWide No, he didn't say what you apparently heard on that clip. Perhaps you should listen again. Confirmation bias much?

SnowWide · 06/09/2012 16:27

Nope, no bias. That's why I asked twice if thats what he said.

But he does seem to be happily bigging up the stereotype of gays being rampaging sex beasts.

And agree with Chandon. He is childishly fixated on sex. Quite a few episodes of QI. Depressengly familiar dirty jokes...

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WhatYouLookingAt · 06/09/2012 16:41

He's an English,upper class, public school educated, Oxford going, theatre society joining, gay man in the media. Of course he's obsessed with sex! That's like complaining Mary Berry likes a bit of cake.
So fucking what if he is?

I may have missed something here, but who exactly has called him a national treasure? Or is this one of those aibu's complaining about something that never happened?

SnowWide · 06/09/2012 16:55

He was called a national treasure by royaty. Prince Charles, no less!!! Whooo!

And English, upper class... etc etc obsessed with sex. More stereotyping. Yeesh! We are all terribly guilty of keeping these cliches well and alive, people. Oh the shame...

A gay man doesnt HAVE to be so obsessed with sex, y'know. Or at least appear to be so obsessed. Elton John. Nice man.

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WhatYouLookingAt · 06/09/2012 17:05

you know why stereotypes are established don't you? Because they are based in truth. They aren't licked off the grass.

Of course gay men don't have to be obsessed with sex. Which is why ALL of the other qualifiers. But as said, since he was celibate for a decade and a half, I imagine its not actually quite true anyway.

Elton John isn't a nice man. He's a shouty twat.

GoldenBabooshka · 06/09/2012 17:21

"A gay man doesnt HAVE to be so obsessed with sex, y'know. Or at least appear to be so obsessed. Elton John. Nice man."

What is wrong with being open about sex? Elton John could be a vegetable welding, cling film wrapped, foot sniffing version of Christian Gray who spends his days telling dirty jokes. It's just never came up.

I don't think I have ever heard SF talk or joke about sex if it wasn't relevant to a topic, question or script.

What's wrong with being childish every now and again?

kweggie · 06/09/2012 17:23

lol
are we now going to have a thread 'AIBU to say Elton John is a shouty twat'.???

squoosh · 06/09/2012 17:25

The AIBU should be 'AIBU to think David Furnish must have the patience of a saint?'.

WhatYouLookingAt · 06/09/2012 17:39

yanbu!

SassySpice · 06/09/2012 17:53

Am I the only person in the world to think that Stephen Fry looks like Drew Barrymore?

CrikeyOHare · 06/09/2012 18:03

Actually he's talking about the attitude of men in general to sex, not just gay men....so once again you are hearing what you want to hear.

He is childishly fixated on sex. Quite a few episodes of QI. Depressengly familiar dirty jokes... Either he is responsible for all the jokes on QI or he's not ("It's all scripted"). You cannot have it both ways. And, in case you hadn't noticed, most comedians joke about sex most of the time.

Disliking someone is one thing but basing that dislike on nonsense & untruths is something else altogether.

CrikeyOHare · 06/09/2012 18:03

Sassy Grin I do know what you mean, actually!

CoffeeInTheMorning · 06/09/2012 19:07

re National Treasure - just looking at his Wiki page, he has been variously voted Top Living Icon, Most Intelligent Man on TV; Broadcast magazine has termed him a national treasure; he had a weekend of programmes dedicated to him at his 50th birthday.

I was as big a H2G2 fan as the next sci-fi geek but I am also thoroughly bored of Fry's sanctification of Douglas Adams (though other friends of Adams do this too).

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