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to think its an atrocity that this man has spent 6 years in prison?!!?

179 replies

imonthefone · 03/09/2012 15:21

6 years!

6 years!

for being naked

some rapists have done less than that! Angry

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gough

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/23/naked-rambler-mental-health-checks

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Yummymummyyobe1 · 03/09/2012 15:52

I think there is time and a place for this sort of thing in the home yes in our green and pleasant land no, when I'm in the countryside the only bushes I want to see are hawthorns. Wink.

imonthefone · 03/09/2012 15:52

let off being naked? ludicrous!

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SheelaNeGig · 03/09/2012 15:52

Me too.

Completely different.

BlackberryIce · 03/09/2012 15:53

Right, ok..... Do when all the sex offenders are hanging around schools And shopping centres etc naked, semi naked etc, you are still cool with that yes?

spoonsspoonsspoons · 03/09/2012 15:53

Someone flashed me when i was 18, my reaction was "what a sad, pathetic individual" and i reported him to the transport police. Didn't upset me but clearly that was his aim hence i reported it. Random naked person, not bothered.

imonthefone · 03/09/2012 15:53

theyd be easier to spot blackberry!

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SheelaNeGig · 03/09/2012 15:54

I don't mind the nakedness.

I do mind sex offenses. Clothed or naked.

2 completely different things.

Themumsnot · 03/09/2012 15:55

What is the link between nudity and sex offences? Struggling to see it. Do you think peedos and rapists habitually wander around naked? Cos they don't.

EdithWeston · 03/09/2012 15:55

I see from the Guardian article that all his prison time has been in Scotland, as that is the only place he has been arrested, despite walking naked from Lands End to John O'Groats more than once (and is currently attempting to walk naked back to Southampton).

Are there differences in whether and how English and Scottish law deals with public nudity?

ShirleyO · 03/09/2012 15:55

I think it could be quite triggering for people who have been affected by flashers or been raped in public places to have to see a man prancing about naked when you're just popping to the shops for a loaf of bread.

Never mind all the nudist stuff, I couldn't care less, but I do resent the implication that because I object to him being naked in public makes me mental, unreasonable, victorian and puritan!

MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 03/09/2012 15:56

The problem is and I understand this thread has descended into naked bosom clasping the law is supposed to be blind. You can't say, this guy seems harmless to me, that guy doesn't. If a creepy, naked man was hanging around my children, I would want them not doing it. But it is not that different to this. You can't have the law so mutable. It is already a racist, sexist and discriminatory world even with laws that can be universally applied.

BTW if we were a society like Sweden where everyone likes to be naked all the time I think it would be a bit different. But as it stands nakedness in public is not usual and the interpretation is that he is doing it to shock.

WorraLiberty · 03/09/2012 15:57

Men get involuntary erections for no reason whatsoever at times.

Can you imagine the fucking uproar if some poor bloke got one while walking through the park/past a school?

And would you really want to sit on a bench after a naked man or woman has possibly left 'natural secretions' on it?

ThePigOnTheWall · 03/09/2012 15:59

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's an atrocity but it does seem rather heavy handed to me

imonthefone · 03/09/2012 15:59

shirley i dont think there was any ^implication...i think it was explicitly stated!

I would bet my socks that most rape victims would not find a naked man in public triggering at all

Interesting Edith...i hadnt clocked that...

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Yummymummyyobe1 · 03/09/2012 15:59

I remember being flashed on my way to school and when the man opened his coat for a reaction I informed him I had changed bigger when babysitting,h the pathetic looser sat down and cried. We called the police and they found the pathetic looser where we had left him in tears.

We had to go to court and when the judge asked what had happened and we retold the court and repeated what I had said he cried in court (there was a snigger or two from around the room) what a pathetic looser.

spoonsspoonsspoons · 03/09/2012 15:59

yes, the law is different in Scotland but across the uk there is no such offence as being naked in public

BlackberryIce · 03/09/2012 16:00

A law allowing this would be open to abuse. You wouldn't be able to police it adequately.

A rambler, a shopkeeper or the unemployed men sat on the park bench. They could all be legitimately naked then. So could a sex offender. After all, the laws the law and he is competing no offence

BlackberryIce · 03/09/2012 16:01

*committing

Moominsarescary · 03/09/2012 16:02

Thanks for that worra I'd never thought about park benches and natural secretions, now I'm wondering how many people have sex on them Hmm

SheelaNeGig · 03/09/2012 16:03

Blackberry that is arse backwards logic.

spoonsspoonsspoons · 03/09/2012 16:04

you don't need a law to allow it because it is not illegal

BlackberryIce · 03/09/2012 16:04

It's true though! Wink

SheelaNeGig · 03/09/2012 16:04

I think you'd need a little towel for public seating. Imagine the splinters.

spoonsspoonsspoons · 03/09/2012 16:06

there was a case a couple of years back where someone stood naked on a plinth in trafalger square. Someone complained but it was decided no offence had been committed

cornybootsaver · 03/09/2012 16:07

I could never use public transport again if everyone was naked.