or has the standard of 'debate' gone right downhill on here

[germyrabbit]

seems to be everyone agrees or no one can be arsed to argue any point these days

Olivia's off quoting you again Maryz

The tiresome stuff is the accusations of hysteria/issues/being twisted/mental, etc. indeed all the name-calling instead of engaging with the arguments

That's exactly the allegation that's thrown at the fwr boards all the time Maryz. Whingeing about housework in the uk/URL? Try Somalia! You lot are only looking forproblems when its so much worse elsewhere

I would love a thread where you could debate properly.

But most of them are cunts backing up cunts, it is difficult..

echt agree, what's all this about with the name-calling????

Yeah, agree with you Mary, but it's just of those things that become a fad. At the moment lots of people are sneering 'first world problem' or apologising for posting about a FWP but it'll die down. Of course it's ridiculous - no-one would be able to post about a health problem because someone else's Nan's verruca turned out to be an inoperable tumour...

The FWR boards are a good example of how some people take it personally when their POV is questioned - eg porn. Poster A says "I don't see anything wrong with Page 3, the girls get good money and enjoy it". Poster B says something like "yeah but they're still being objectified, surely the negatives outweigh the benefits to the model". Poster A says something like "Are you calling me stupid?" and the whole thing goes tits up.

Pardon the pun

Some subjects can really get to a persons core though Harleen, there are subjects where I wouldn't give a fuck about what people thought of me posting my view about and I'd happily call Cunt on them

And with threads about porn, some posters have had lots of thread experience to sharpen their argument claws on, and so can slay another poster with a dismissive remark.

There are certain posters on here who I know I will never ever agree with on some pretty major issues.

But I do respect their opposing POV and enjoy debating with them because I also respect them and their posting style.

It's nice to vehemently disagree with someone on one thread...almost to the point of wanting to pull my own kidneys out through my nostrils, and then have a laugh and a giggle with them on another thread...it's the way it should be imo.

But there are one or two who I have no respect for because their stock reply to someone they disagree with, is "Oh do fuck off". Or they take it a step further and get quite personal with someone because they've given opposing advice to an OP.

It's ridiculous really because I always assume that people start threads for varied opinions and not 'text book' or 'stock' responses...but so often an OP ends up getting ignored, because the posters are too busy slagging each other off because they don't agree with the advice that other people have given.

Look at the diverse backgrounds, ages, religions, cultures, experience that MN posters have...there's no way we're all going to be giving the same advice to any OP really.

I've waffled now and completely forgot the point I was trying to make so I'll just hit 'post message' and pour another

Well that can work on any subject you care to mention, Agent
It does get annoying when someone cones n just to dismiss the thread subject. First world problem / professionally offended/ overthinking etc. Ffs it's the internet! The beauty of it is you're not trapped into someone's conversation. You can opt out, no skin off anyone's noe. Its a choice to be rude.

Agree worra. Mind you sometimes we don't! Illustration of your point

@honeydragon

Checkout the Dear MNHQ thread. Even HQ ABU

erm no I don't think so.

PEACE AND LOVE

Exactly 24hours

Great Post Worra. Holding a grudge and not being able to 'shake hands' and be happy to 'meet again' is truly a loss for some. And 24Hours I agree with you too, why some posters have to engage even though it doesn't even seem good for their own sake is beyond me. Yes, it is a choice.

I'd like to think I don't really dismiss posters as cunts very much 24, and when I do they probably deserve it

But it's when it's about insignificant stuff like laundry that I think the OTT outrage might betray the entertainment the poster's getting from it.

Meh. I'm too thick skinned to know/care if I'm being 'bullied' and far too bone idle to report posts

Olivia ...... You are BU We don't normally get messages of peace and love ( and other stuff in Rebaccas case). We get you Rudhingnin looking frazzled and darkly muttering ahem.

Mind you I think I prefer the peace and love......

Arriving!
Rudhingnin isn't even a word

YANBU, I think the advice given in sections like Behaviour/Development is often basic, unimaginative and you could just as well watch some formulaic tv show about child rearing that is not going to help your own situation in any way! Personally, I think the advice given in that section and parenting used to reflect a less conventional approach to bringing up children.

The big difference I've noticed is that there are more angry posters that are quick to tell you are being unreasonable even if you've posted in chat or Relationships. Equally chat has gone down hill and is definitely becoming more akin to nethuns.

Seems you can't call another member a liar even when they're a lair. How can I sue Mumsnet for spreading that member's lies about me?