to think games have 18 certs for a reason?

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Can someone please explain why a video game has an 18 cert? We're not a gaming household (our DC's are only tiny) so I have no experience. Earlier BIL came over with DN who's 10, and he'd just bought him COD which I saw was an 18.

I pointed at the cert and said "that's there for a reason, you know", and BIL just said "ooooh!" to which I just shrugged.

Like I said, I know nothing about games, but I do know that there's usually quite a big jump between a 15 and an 18 film, and I assume it's the level of violence in a game that gives it an 18 certificate?

So, AIBU to think that a 10yo shouldn't be bought an 18 cert game?

Oh and using the name Stormtrooper seemed to be no problem for Steven Spielberg

FFS NovackNGood I was using that as an example. I have watched bloody CoD over DH's shoulder enough to know when teams are a bunch of little wannabe Nazis. Their individual and team names leave nothing to the imagination. Neither does their "Fing N", "Cck-scking F*" language. Insert homophobic and racist terms of your choosing. I have heard very young voices on games with this kind of language being bandied around. Luckily DH challenges this and tells the 8 year old to go to bed reports. Not everyone cares though.

I think you're getting too hung up on that specific example, Novack!

Because they are 18 games and he is over 18. They are not and their parents should be supervising them.

Did I piss you off somehow, NovackNGood because you seem a little, um, hostile?

Because lots of games are targeted at adults. Therefore adults like them. Basically, they're more fun than whist.

The eight-year-olds shouldn't be there.

Do you not have to click something that says 'I am 18' to play online, or do they just assume that kids won't have the game because they're underage?

novack so you're saying that adults should be forced to set up their own servers to play Internet games in order to avoid 8 year olds who shouldn't be on there in the first place?

Instead of the much more reasonable solution of 8 year olds not playing games meant for adults?

Are you trying to make my DH sound like a pedophile or is that just the unintended consequence of your posts?

It's not up to individuals to decide what they allow their children to do at the end of the day. We set limits of drugs, alcohol, driving, marriage, films and games. They are sold to over 18s. An 8-year old should not be playing CoD online.

No

But if you know the areas is infested with little ones and setting up a server only involves giving your own friends the password to enter your server room on the main game server. It does not involve buying extra equipment of any sort. You are aware of that I assume. If not then if I was you I ask why he does not to do as a general rule.

So if your husband does not want to play with 8 year olds then all he has to do is name a game room Pratchett's room over 18 only. And if any one sound young or uses words he finds offensive then he can boot them.

It's bizarre, it's like some kid hanging out at the bar trying to buy drinks and muscle in on pool games and someone suggesting to the people wondering why the kid isn't doing something more appropriate and wanting him to get lost that they take their beer, buy their own pool table and play elsewhere.

all he has to do is name a game room Pratchett's room over 18 only which he shouldn't have to do CONSIDERING THE GAME IS 18+.

Some of his friends play but very little because they are all grown ups with children and play when they can. Because of bedtimes and food and swimming and on and on, that is never for very long and never at the same time. I have no idea why I am justifying this because as noble pointed out, it is bizarre.

Ages for drugs alcohol marriage are different the world over even within the UK you have differing ages for marriage. Drug rules vary all over europe as do ages of consent. 13 in the Vatican.

Age of consent in the USA varies form 14 to 18 depending on state for example.

The internet is a known unregulated environment. Your adult husband can avoid children online if he chooses to. Other parents are far more liberal than you and it is easy to avoid the liberal areas if you so chose to.

"But you could play with groups of friends if yo know adults who play vide games still that is, set up on your own server which you are able to do could you not."

So kids (who the game is neither aimed at nor rated for) could use the public servers and play with strangers and adults (for whom the game is both designed and rated for) have to make up private servers and only play with people they know? Seriously??

I am very close to reporting you NovackNGood for this stuff, Your adult husband can avoid children online if he chooses to and choosing to play with 8 year olds on open servers where you all seem to know you will meet 8 years seems just a little bit...weird really. Nasty stuff and quite uncalled for.

Kids can play pool in bars and can drink from 16 if they are eating they jsut can¡t buy the drink themselves so again the rules are different depending on the situation and if they are in any other European country they can legally be drinking in the family home at whatever age the parent decides is appropriate, so playing silly video games is no much different is it.

"Ages for drugs alcohol marriage are different the world over even within the UK you have differing ages for marriage. Drug rules vary all over europe as do ages of consent. 13 in the Vatican.

Age of consent in the USA varies form 14 to 18 depending on state for example."

The age rating of these games are UNIVERSAL though.

Can I just roll my eyes at the age of consent being 13 in the Vatican?

Making up a private server where you are in charge is a matter of 1 or 2 clicks.

If you want a good fun game of shooting each other, with a good number of players, private servers aren't going to cut the mustard. I've set up private servers for Left 4 Dead, because it just requires I get three friends together. Something like CoD, or Team Fortress 2, is designed for greater numbers of players.

Out of all the ways you could have challenged what MrsP said about her DH playing an online game Novack, I think insinuating he's doing it on purpose for sinister reasons seems just a little bit...weird really.

Do you normally interpret things through that kind lens?

You can't have it both ways NovackNGood. Either the internet is open and unregulated, in which case children should not be allowed to use it unsupervised. Or, it is a just tool for playing silly video games in which case why should my DH, who is doing nothing wrong, adhering to law and guidelines, can play where the hell he likes.

If everyone responsible sets up private servers, it will only be the nutters and pedophiles left to play with the 8 year-olds. Scary, right?

The vatican laws reflect age of consent laws in medieval Italy, I think. And they've never had a reason to change it, as the population mainly comprises priests and monks and nuns.

Cheers Agent. I wouldn't mind so much if she was insulting me but DH is playing CoD with innocent children not here to defend himself.