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to hoick my judgey knickers firmly on...

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peanutMD · 18/08/2012 14:12

Because I have just seen a little boy with a number 2 birthday badge on, sitting in a pushchair with a hoop earring in one ear?

I don't know the mother but she was taking to a friend and I overheard her saying it was a present as he just had a boring stud before.

I will admit piercing childrens ears is not my thing but I generally don't see why people argue about it, fire stone reason though the fact that its a little boy shocked me more.

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PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot · 18/08/2012 16:53

Your hard getting your belly done at 13, got mine done at 18 (and cried like a baby) I only just managed to get the fecker out at 35 with my boyfriend and a pair of pliers.

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peanutMD · 18/08/2012 16:56

Lol Pickles, we were in Turkey and my mum got hers done and I was jealous so she told me how painful it was as they don't numb area but I decided to go ahead.

it feckin hurt!

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HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 16:57

I think people comment on circumcision in relation to ear piercing because the principle of cutting off/cutting a whole in someone elses body is the same.

PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot · 18/08/2012 17:07

The principle isnt the same at all!

HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 17:09

Yes it is. You're taking someone elses body and physically (and painfully) altering it for no medical reason.

stifnstav · 18/08/2012 17:10

I was 10 months old when I had my ears pierced (shock horror). No one in the UK would pierce them on a child so young so my mum took me abroad to have it done!

I have not been traumatised by it at all. In fact, I got my ears pierced a further 7 times when I was in my teens. That hurt quite a bit.

By the time my sister was born, it was becoming more acceptable to have babies' ears pierced, so she was 5 months old when hers were done. She wasn't traumatised either. She went on to have a further 5 piercings in her ears.

Neither of us wear more than two earrings now. It doesn't look hugely professional to wear them all at once, plus the less frequently used holes go bright red. And its quite expensive to buy 3.5 pairs of matching earrings. They've gotta match, I can't be common and have seven unmatching earrings in.

I don't really know what my point is in this post.

I wouldn't have my son's ears pierced even if he was a girl. It will be his choice (when he leaves home). And definitely no hoops on children from a safety point of view.

PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot · 18/08/2012 17:12

Its like comparing cutting someone's toenail though or chopping off their foot - a bit of a daft comparison.

Earrings can easily be taken out and the holes will close. Its in effect reversible.

crackcrackcrak · 18/08/2012 17:14

The adult requires to pierce was traumatised.

If you split circumcision and piercing then what are you saying? That it's ok to hurt babies a bit but not too much?

McHappyPants2012 · 18/08/2012 17:15

You can't regrow a foreskin but earrings can be taken out.

HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 17:16

Is it reversible if they get infected? If the baby catches it and rips their ear lobe open? Or will those scars remain? Maybe the scars will heal up, but is it ok to put a baby through that pain? No.

I'm not saying that ear piercing is as severe as circumcision obviously, but the principle of cutting someone elses body for no medical reason is absolutely the same.

PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot · 18/08/2012 17:17

No i'm not, if you read my previous posts personally I think to wait until the children decide.

However, I don't think comparing it to circumcision is right, as its not a meaningful comparison.

As you can easily take the earrings out and its reversible.

I wasn't making any point about inciting pain.

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peanutMD · 18/08/2012 17:18

Holy I see what you mean, in theory yes it is the same but in principle its totally different IMHO.

circumcision is an irreversible procedure which causes medium term pain and discomfort, although in some cases is medically required out is generally the adults choice.

Piercing is reversible and causes very sort tern pain and is never done for anything other than vanity.

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HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 17:20

'Its like comparing cutting someone's toenail though or chopping off their foot - a bit of a daft comparison'

No pickles. It's like comparing taking a knife and slicing a shallow cut on your baby's toe (it will probably heal up no problem and leave either a small scar or no scar at all) to chopping off your baby's toe (won't grow back).

One is more severe than the other, but the principle is the same and the there is no justification for either.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/08/2012 17:22

That is the worst thing I ever heard

PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot · 18/08/2012 17:23

Well we are going to have to agree to disagree I suppose!

Although the parents DO feel they are bestowing a benefit rather than just cutting, I cant deny, it stings.

HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 17:24

'Although the parents DO feel they are bestowing a benefit rather than just cutting'

so do the parents who circumcise their sons.

PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot · 18/08/2012 17:26

But you cant get the foreskin back, so we have agreed its a lesser issue.

I had my ears pierced and you cant even see where the hole was.

HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 17:28

Oh we definitely agree it's a lesser issue.

The same way it's a lesser issue to punch someone than to stab them. Both wrong though aren't they?

HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 17:29

and the principle is the same.

crackcrackcrak · 18/08/2012 17:29

its not about the long term issues if we are comparing - i'm saying is it ok to consciously hurt a baby at all? for any reason? is it feck

HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 18/08/2012 17:32

it does seem a weird measure; if it grows back/heals it's fine, if it doesn't then it's not?!

So beating your children is fine as long as the wounds will heal? Beat them so that they are left with long-term injury then you're out of order?

Roseformeplease · 18/08/2012 17:33

What winds me up on these boards is not one opinion, or the other, it is the people who come on and say that the thread has been "done to death before". They are thereby suggesting the OP is boring and also reminding the OP that they have just got here and so don't really belong because they have raised something that has been raised before.

That, I judge.

Also, I hate ear-rings on children. I had mine done as a teenager and tore open the hole ( all the way through) and it had to be stitched and still has a small scar, even though it was done by a plastic surgeon. You can still feel the scar tissue. The other one has gone unused for 20 years and is still there, not healed up.

No parent should have the right to mutilate their child for any reason.

Krumbum · 18/08/2012 17:35

People defend piercings little girls to the death on here. It's no different.
Both are very cruel imo.

crackcrackcrak · 18/08/2012 17:39

Holy- yes precisely!

I'm always up for this thread, ear piercing on babies is grim and cruel and anyone who does it has issues.

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peanutMD · 18/08/2012 17:40

:o just got here, I registered in 2008 and haven't left since! I have however changed name due to being way to open about my life >

Holy - I've never thought of it like that before but yes I see what you mean now.

Either way it is not something I would do as I don't think it makes children look pretty or whatever other reasons there are.

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