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To be concerned about becoming a MIL?

101 replies

nokidshere · 09/08/2012 20:10

I read lots of posts on various sites about MIL's and 99% of them seem to be really awful. With two boys of my own I am a bit nervous of becoming a MIL in the future!!

My own MIL is lovely and has never been anything other than supportive to us (we have been married for nearly 30yrs) we don't always agree and she has moments when she purses her lips tightly but on the whole we have always got on well.

So, to all you people with horrible in laws - a)are you absolutely sure that its not partly your fault? and b)what would you want your in laws to be like on a daily basis?

OP posts:
Catsmamma · 09/08/2012 20:46

...the mil bashing threads

sorry no idea how i posted too soon!!

elizaregina · 09/08/2012 20:50

Id be really interested to know about the awkard mils are they sahm or working, it seems the mils who are the strong dominate matriarchs are the most problematic to me - competitive etc..and wanting to be the best

DumSpiroSpero · 09/08/2012 20:52

A someone with a rollercoaster MIL/DIL relationship, I would say:

Listen to and try to respect your DIL's opinions. If you can't agree with them, keep your own opinions to yourself unlesd it is concerning something really major.

Consider your DIL's feelings, and hopefully she will return the favour.

Offer your help but don't insist.

Appreciate the fact that your DIL has parents/family of her own and will most likely be a bit closer to them, especially her mum - it's nothing personal, it's just genetics!

Don't slag your DIL (or her family) off behind her back, especially to your DS or DGC's - she will find out and will.never forget even if she manages to forgive.

Don't constantly 'pop round' unannounced and don't open your DIL's post.

Apply all the above x10000 once grandchildren are involved.

Unfortunately there are no guarantees though. I had a fab relationship with my ex-bf's mum and still think the world of her years later, sadly she has always had a difficult relationship with his wife to the detriment of her relationship with her DS & DGC's as he is totally henpecked.

MamaBear17 · 09/08/2012 20:56

My MIL is a lovely woman but is not shy about putting forth her opinions. In fact, she is just like my mum. I openly admit that when she is critical of me (and im referring to little, normal criticism - nothing nasty) or gives me advice it grates on me. However, if my mum was to give the same criticism or advice it wouldn't! I do have to remind myself to be objective because I can be over sensitive when it comes to her. I think it is borne out of the fact that my hubby is her PFB and that is very obvious. I think wives and MILs will always have that little issue between them!

ThePhantomDeregisterer · 09/08/2012 20:59

Oh ffs get a grip. It's like going on relationships and deducing all men are shit or going on teenagers and deducing all teenagers are shit. People come on to complain.

I have 2 sons and I have a mil I don't get on with, but here's the thing... I am not my mil. Being a mil doesn't immediately mean issues. I don't know what kind of dil I may get, but I do know I will work at it and not, for instance, sit her down for a family meeting when she has a 3 month old baby to tell her all the ways she has disrespect me over the years, mock her tears and threaten to punch her. As mine did with me with fil, he is not off the hook by the way.

Sometimes mils just are difficult, sometimes dils are, but most probably just rub along in life like most people do.

ILiveInAPineapple · 09/08/2012 21:36

I used to get on okay with my mil, my DH sort of tolerated her, they had a rocky relationship before I was on the scene.

It all went a bit wrong when my DS was born and my mil suddenly became very overbearing and jealous (I don't know what of, as up to that point, I think i would have let her have DS with some expressed milk once he was a few months old, and we loved near them so we would have seen them loads). My DH flipped his lid at his mum, she then blamed me, told me to my face I was evil and turned her son against her, my DH practically dragged me by the hand away from her, and we have not seen her since. My DH changed jobs to move 150 miles away to be near my parents, and gets on much better with them than he does his own.

I think what I am trying to say is that it is not always the DIL, and even if you don't get on with your mil, at the very least you know what NOT to do when it is your turn to be a mil. I will never make the mistakes that my mil did in her relationship with my DH, so I hope that if I become a mil, that I will get on ok with my DIL/SIL. I don't fall out with people as a rule, I am pretty easy going (so the whole mil thing really upset me!), so I hope I stay that way when I am a mil.

PeppermintLatte · 09/08/2012 22:03

In real life the MIL/DIL issue is less common, certainly in my family. Fortunately all the Mils & dils get on very well! No issues with regards to access to grandkids etc... But i will say most (but not all) of the dils spend more time with their own mothers & in turn their mothers see more of the grandkids.

If i am ever a MIL, i will just have to remember that it's very normal that my DIL wants to spend more time with her own mother & it's certainly nothing personal. As long as my son is happy & still in my life that's all i'll care about. I really do think my DIL & i would be great friends, i'm a bloody fabulous person ; )

PenisVanLesbian · 09/08/2012 22:06

When I read about MIL problems, a fair bit of the time I'm thinking "don't know what the MIL is like, but you sound like a horror of a DIL".

Jelly15 · 09/08/2012 22:11

I have two DSs, one in uni and one in sixth form and this is an issue I too have minor concerns about. However, reading the MIL threads here is like an education on what not to do.

elizaregina · 09/08/2012 22:11

I live

Same sort of thing to you - dh and MIl had very very rocky relationship before me, and yet when he flipped at her well after meeting me - it was blamed on me.

She has amnesia as to how they actaully got on before me! I was also accused of taking son away when in fact I had stood over him, saying - do spend a few more pounds on her than that - she is your mum etc...on bdays and mums day....encouraging him to invite her round and call her.

Mine was apparenlty obsessed with DH when baby though and now - goes into a trance at " what a beautifu baby he was" - I have been told she is obsessed with him infact and said " you dont need a good DH if you have a son".

She has made strange comments about his tackle and also showed extreme jealousy when he brought me a stunning coat for xmas saying he never brought her a lovley coat like that!

Mine also chose the time to vent all her frustrataionns at me - a week after birth of DD1 and just over a week after a very close family sudden death.

I also lost my Dm a few years before and during my pregnancy not once mentioned to her about how lonley i felt and how i had never actutley missed my DM as much as when pregnant, I never complained BUT she would look at me and say...." with ds, my first " I " didnt have MY mother with me, she was in a differnet country....I was on MY own".

I used to feel compassion for her - and my goodness what a mistake that was...as she didnt feel any for me.

The pain and misery that woman has radiated is nobodies business.

Safe to say now how much I am enjoying pregnanc with dd2, WITHOUT her miserabe negative - presence.

I know of plenty who have FABULOUS relations with MILs,, it can happen!!!!

I would love nothing more than to get on with mine, but my biggest mistake was ever thinking I could, it lead to alot of misery.

ILiveInAPineapple · 09/08/2012 22:13

I actually miss my mil, but my DH is adamant he never wants to see her again, plus it did hurt when she told me I was evil when I thought we had a good relationship Confused.

I feel sad for my DH and my DS but it has been my DH's decision and I support him. Equally if he wants to rebuild a relationship with them, I will support him in that too.

I sometimes think that DILs must bear some of the blame from the things they write on here, and I would be intrigues to hear the MiL's side too. I would also love to hear what my MiL says about my DH and me!

Salmotrutta · 09/08/2012 22:15

I am a MIL to my DD's DH - we have a good relationship and respect each other.

My own MIL is difficult, to say the least, but she is like that with everyone. But (and it's an important "but") she loves the DCs and helped look after them after school etc. and I would never have stopped her seeing them or got between her and DH.

I do wonder what any future wife of my DS will be like but I'm a sensible and well-balanced person I think so hopefully it will be OK.

ILiveInAPineapple · 09/08/2012 22:16

Wow Eliza, she sounds vile. I really feel for you. They do sound fairly similar, but yours does sound worse!
Mine was fine to me, up until she had the ding dong with my DH and then all the stuff came up about me taking her son away etc he was her PFB and she breastfed him until he was 6 so there must have been underlying mothering issues that I hadn't noticed!!

elizaregina · 09/08/2012 22:17

if i am a MIL i am going to do my absolute best to get on with dil and simly ask alot esp with GC what she wants me to do and respect her wishes...

remember I have had my time with my own DC and that she wants to do things her way...

I wouldnt try and impose on her and run round buying things without asking her - and critise her and put her down, and blame her for things in my DS that perhaps I should have been responsible for - ie brushing teeth and hair!

I know I may feel jealous and pushed out - and all the rest but I would fight it knowing giving into jealoulsy etc will only cause pain and fall out. I would hope we had things in common and liked each other naturally but if not - i would try my best to be civil, polite nad hide it from her and make her feel welcome, remebering SHE is the lone outsider coming into our family as my DS would be going into hers.

exoticfruits · 09/08/2012 22:19

It is only on here- people only post when they have problems.
They copy what you do - if you have a good relationship with your MIL they are likely to expect the same. Mine only have girlfriends but so far they have been lovely - a breath of fresh air after an all male household. They have been family orientated so they see the importance of my DSs family in addition to their own.
Most people I know in RL get on well - some better than their own mothers!
Don't interfere and get to know them as a friend early on.

elizaregina · 09/08/2012 22:19

WHAT!! I thought that was 6 months but re read and saw SIX!!!!

MUST have been underying issues not noticed there....wow!

ILiveInAPineapple · 09/08/2012 22:21

My brother's mil is lovely, she is like an aunty to me! :-) there are lots of lovely mils, just that people talk more about the not so nice ones.

ILiveInAPineapple · 09/08/2012 22:23

Yes, 6 yrs, I was a little bit [shocked].

I feel sorry for her in a way as well though because my DS is so affectionate, and I know she would have loved him Sad, but I am glad my DH gets on so well with my parents. they seem to dote on him, maybe even more than me at times

elizaregina · 09/08/2012 22:25

plus it did hurt when she told me I was evil when I thought we had a good relationship confused.

well i had six years of desperalty trying to fit in with diff culture and values - smiling, trying to walk a tight rope in a very very strict micro managed house hold...held my tongue at some nasty/un savoury comments etc...

we did have a few things in common but I was also told we dont get on, and I thought up until then there had been common ground - sketchy but a realtionship non the less.

It didnt get me anywhere with her. she told me i was agrresive when i said i didnt want to have a wardrobe she thought i should have.

Dont worry I LIVE.

If she truelly cares about your DH she will relent and come round - and be nice and humble and make an effort. Sometimes cutting people like that off is the best thing you can do - it certainly wheedles out the people who do care and who really dont.

If she comes round you will hopefully all have a far better relationship than before.

neverquitesure · 09/08/2012 22:28

I find my MIL a bit of a strain sometimes although I do genuinely love her very much (if that makes sense?!)

I also have a son (and a stepson which will make me step-MIL and even more hated!) and it does make me more tolerant of her as I realise I am using far more elements of my upbringing than DH's. I do try to listen to all her advice with an open mind though.

DH and DIL also find her very difficult so perhaps some of this is more down to her.

CommaChameleon · 09/08/2012 22:56

I posted an epic thread on here when I first started MNing regularly. I have no idea how to find it now but the upshot of it was that I was NBU in my issues with my MIL.

On paper we should get along just fine. We have quite a few interests and hobbies in common for example. I can see her good points as well as her faults and if I am honest we share a few of both of those too.

For several years I felt like I was involved in some sort of strategy game with her, trying not to be walked all over while also trying to keep her happy and not all out. We had our moments when we did fall out, we also had our good times, but she was hard work from the start and only got worse.

I did wonder if it was me being overly sensitive and I don't like to cause conflict or upset people, but increasingly I felt MIL was behaving badly on purpose because she had been allowed to get away with the smaller things and they eventually became massive things.

In the beginning it was petty things that I thought I was over-reacting to and so ignored. She would pretend to have forgotten my name and the names of my parents etc. She was still pretending to not remember our names on my wedding day to her son. She had known me for eight months by that point and met my parents many times, had meals with them etc. We had been married for over a year before she stopped calling us by the wrong names. Sometimes she would pretend not to recognise us at all.

She opened cards and gifts at our wedding before we could, so we had no idea who gave us what and didn't know what to say in the thank you notes etc. She rang our guests without our knowledge and changed the date of our wedding because she thought we had got it wrong.

She would also say silly things and then pretend not to know they were rude or offensive. Things like calling me a slapper because she thought it was a name for someone wearing flip flops. She called a stranger a whore one day and then tried to claim she had really said "ooh-er" at something that surprised her. I had some of my writing published once and she was jealous so she made several nasty remarks about how I had only been published because they thought they could make money out of me. Stupid things like that, that you couldn't really get upset about or claim to be offended by but which were still annoying.

They would make demands to come and visit us at a moments notice. If we said no then MIL would cry and FIL would shout. They would manipulate and bully to get their own way. Once they had left our house after staying for several days, they had done a long drive of several hours to go home and within half an hour of getting there FIL rang to say they were on the way back because MIL was upset and needed a break.

She ruined several Christmases because nothing was good enough, she was jealous if we spent time with my family or our friends or even time alone, the gifts we gave were never what they wanted or as good as BIL gave, we didn't come to visit for long enough or pay her enough attention while we were there.

They borrowed money they never paid back, they told lies to us about other family members (mainly their other DIL) and lies about us to them.

When they moved nearer to us they would drop in unexpectedly several times a day. They would be offended if we passed their house and didn't call in. They would ring DH's siblings and MIL would cry and say we thought we were too good for them and then FIL would leave a message for us accusing us of breaking MIL's heart and being selfish. Then she would ring and cry, then he would ring and shout, then BIL1 would ring and call us cunts for making MIL cry and then BIL2 would ring and ask us to ring her because she was upset, then she would ring and cry and then FIL would shout. And then we would come home from the shop with the milk or the bread we had just nipped out for and find world war 3 on the answer machine.

And then finally we lost our baby to stillbirth and just three days later MIL was demanding to know when we would be trying again, she argued with me about the time he was born and then asked me if it still hurts to give birth if your baby is already dead.

She had waited until DH was outside so she could quiz me about it all.

She then hijacked our sons funeral by shouting at DH because when she rang him the day before she thought his tone of voice was off. Of course it was off, we were burying our first child the following day and we were totally destroyed by his loss. She thought we could at least sound happy to hear from her.

She made other nasty comments over the next few months about our loss, then I became pregnant again and we lost our daughter to prematurity following a road accident. I was very ill and nearly died too. MIL blamed me by announcing "I know what's wrong with you" and it turned out she had been discussing all she knew of my medical history with a midwife friend who diagnosed me without ever having met me.

She told me our daughter didn't count as her first granddaughter and that both our babies were not grandchildren in the same way as BIL's children were.

She asked for some of the few very precious photo's we had of our daughter and then promptly lost them, finding them again months later "in a box of rubbish we were throwing away."

By the time she found the photo's we were estranged. I had just given birth to our third child, thankfully with him being fit and healthy and alive, and we were talking about who in the family he might resemble. I said that sometimes he looked exactly like his sister and MIL looked at the photo in our living room and said "so was she born with all of her face then?" You could see her whole face in the photo.

MIL then took offence because we were upset by her remark.

Things deteriorated badly and although I was still seeing them after that remark, she and FIL made things much worse. They told more lies about me, they tried to split up our marriage, they have called me names and wished DH had never met me. They have bombarded me with calls and letters and even parked outside the house to stare at it and followed me along the street in their car when I walked back from the shops. They have held some of our belongings to ransom and told me that if I wanted them back I would have to do as I was told.

They have disowned DH more than once and than wondered why he wasn't going to visit them.

And all I have done in return for all of that was to be upset at the way they spoke about my children and told them that their behaviour and comments have to stop. I think I am the first person in MIL's life to take a stand with her and she has not liked it. And even I allowed her to behave badly towards me without rebuke for over eight years before it became too much.

I didn't even cut them out of my life after the final comment about my daughters face, but I did say then that I wanted DH to be with me when I saw them. And for that they have stalked and bullied me to the point of illness, I was diagnosed with delayed, grief related depression and panic attacks after a barrage of telephone calls ordering me to do as they said and calling me a bitch.

So yes, I am sure that the majority of the problems I have with my in-laws are caused by them. I'm not saying I am perfect, but I tried very hard to stay friendly with them and not cause upset until they started to be so cruel about our children. At best those were casual cruelties and at worst they were deliberate. About her own grandchildren. I won't ever forgive her for that, or FIL because he supports her in every single thing she says or does.

Had they not been so cruel we would still see them but I would at least like to be able to go to the shop without drama and not have them call in three or four times a day, every day, and stay for at least an hour each time. We sold the house and moved in the end, the pressure was too much. I've always gotten along with boyfriends parents before this and when I broke up with my ex it was his mother I felt most sad about leaving. I know it's not me that has caused the majority of the problems, it's MIL. She is manipulative and vindictive.

As it is, I worry every time I leave the house that they will by laying in wait for me somewhere and I dread the rare times feels he should visit them. I feel too ill to go with him and he feels depressed both before and after.

PeppermintLatte · 09/08/2012 23:29

Bloody hell, CommaChameleon, that woman is pure evil. It's a testament to what a nice person you are for not cutting her out of your lives sooner. If any good has come out of this, it will be that you will probably make a wonderful MIL. So very sorry about your tragic losses. X

CommaChameleon · 09/08/2012 23:43

Peppermint thank you. That was the short version of events but still quite epic, so thanks for getting to the end of it. I feel better again for getting that out once more. Smile

Salmotrutta · 09/08/2012 23:54

Oh Comma - how awful. Really awful. I don't know what to say.Sad

My MIL is quite mild really in comparison - just tries to get her own way and says rude things to everyone.

elizaregina · 10/08/2012 00:01

comma,

I am not surprised you got a vote of NBU - my goodness how awful for you. The problem with such extreme behaviour is that you get de sensitsed to it and it becomes normal - ish....

I hope you can put her/them behind you and concentrate on your family, life really is too fragile and short to be upset by such horrid people.