To think that no one will ever vote conservative again

[rogersmellyonthetelly]

At least in anyone in living memory of the current government and their immoral targeting of the most vulnerable members of society.
I voted conservative at the last election to my eternal shame, I won't make the same mistake twice.

I have not had a chance to read the entire thread, but I know that, having grown up in the Welsh valleys in the 1980s and having seen the Tories decimate entire communities with their policies, that it would be a hot day in hell before I voted for them. I cannot forget and will never forgive.

Who ever voted them in the first place are bloody cunts.

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Dawn, of course the NHS covers diabetes - are you talking about prescription charges? There are loads of anomalies - it's an ad hoc system, not one that is actually designed around any rational process. Age Concern and Citizen's Advice have been campaigning about this for years but no government has been prepared to sort it out. (I get free prescriptions because I have a chronic condition, dh also has a chronic condition but has to pay for his medicines.)

If the cost of medicines is a problem, you can get a season ticket, so you won't pay more than whatever it is a year.

I vote Conservative and will happily do so again, I can't understand the mentality that the State owes you a living and should solve your problems for you.

Who ever voted them in the first place are bloody cunts

I know. Never understood Labour voters...

flatpackhamster

Well, er, you just abused people on the basis of their voting background, so...

I find Tory policies morally abhorrent. Why would I not also find the people who vote for them to be so?

At least they give a shit. I'd take an abusive lefty over a selfish Tory any day.

I'll be voting Conservarive or Liberal at the next election, although I don't think the Government is doing a particulary good job, they are undoubtedly better than the previous Labour Government. I don't understand the abuse they get, the mistake was allowing a budget deficit of more than 10% to develop. The fiscal retrenchment required to rectify this error was always going to be traumatic. Also why doLabour supporters berate the Liberals for dishonesty as it was not so long a go the Labour Party started a war on a largely bogus dossier which exaggerated the threat of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Labour didn't go into government with a policy of not invading Iraq.

usualsuspect

At least they give a shit. I'd take an abusive lefty over a selfish Tory any day.

Do they? As far as I can tell their simple brains say "I think this is a problem, this must be fixed, someone else must pay for the thing I like." What could be more selfish than getting other people to pay for your prejudices?

So you're abusive and selfish, which, let's be honest, isn't exactly a vote-winning combination. Ask Gordon Brown or Red Ken.

yellowraincoat

flatpackhamster

Well, er, you just abused people on the basis of their voting background, so...

So I shouldn't have come down to your level? Yes, you're probably correct. I should show how morally superior free-market liberals like me are by rising above it.

I find Tory policies morally abhorrent. Why would I not also find the people who vote for them to be so?

Because you ought to have the intelligence and maturity to treat people as individuals. But of course, as a socialist, you don't treat people as individual human beings, you treat them as things to be used as you see fit.

Nah, Go tell that to the million unemployed teenagers

Whats he doing foe them?

For*

Oh I know what they did, scraped EMA and raised tuition fees.

Yeah that helped.

Good point Ailoun about people who blast the Liberal Democrats about tuition fees. Although it went against their manifesto and pledge, raising tuition fees hasn't killed anyone and they haven't the constraints of Coalition Government. The Labour Party's lies and war are responsible for deaths of thousands of people and yet they are the "caring" Party.

the fee changes were written and more or less set in stone under labour, I was briefed on the changes that were comming in BEFORE the election

Not going to botch my vote next to time, I haven't got a clue who to vote for

I find Tory policies morally abhorrent. Why would I not also find the people who vote for them to be so?

I find bankrupting a country far more morally abhorrent than trying to balance the books.

This continued misery lies on the door of one political party only. And that's Labour.

And despite the posturing they full well know it.

flatpackhamster you find one post where I've abused anyone. It does make me chuckle when people say "oh I shouldn't have come down to your level". It just makes you look childish and unable to have a discussion without resorting to schoolchild tactics.

Sparks1 I'm not convinced you know enough about the economy to debate that to be honest.

Labour didn't bankrupt the UK, for a start.

*Oh I know what they did, scraped EMA and raised tuition fees.

Yeah that helped.*

EMA was nothing other than a carrot to go to college, hardly a useful use of money.

They also sold the myth University is for all. Complete and utter bollocks.

dryu "raising tuition fees hasn't killed anyone" - no but it has led to a fall in University applications so having a largely under educated youth in a time when we need growth won't kill anyone, but it won't get us out of recession either will it? When employers won't even interview someone without a degree there are huge swathes of young people who couldn't afford to saddle themselves with huge amounts of debt at university who will be consigned to low paid jobs or unemployment for many years if not forever.

Great.

I'm looking forward to that future.

Not.

*Sparks1 I'm not convinced you know enough about the economy to debate that to be honest.

Labour didn't bankrupt the UK, for a start*

Good thing your conviction is not required then isn't it.

Er, yes they did. But i suspect a lesson on macro economics would be lost on you...