To think £31500 pa is less than average wage?

[Elderwand]

That's it, I work as a nurse in the Nhs, I'm 33. , just thought at this stage of my life I would be earning more. (unhappy & bitter) have 2 young DD, So career change at the mo would be difficult.

Duellingfanjo I didn't mean to be snippy. It's just that I find myself constantly amazed that I can earn what is definitely a lot more than the vast majority yet still be short each month. Tax credits unfortunately drop off after about £35k and don't even get me started on David Cameron and his "of course you can keep child benefit if you are a couple each earning £40k, but you over there, single mum on anything over £40k, you can't have any child benefit any more"!

Blimey 31k average, I currently 45-60 hours a week and would be lucky to see 20k per year. Can I assume this 31k figure is for England only?

I don't get the policy on that tbh. Makes NO sense to me.

bureni I think Scotland has lower average earnings. A lot of figures in England are skewed because of London, here the average is something ridiculous that I don't even want to think about.

My parents moved from Scotland to England and they earn more now.

Yellowraincoat, I am in N.I and like Scotland the wages are a lot lower probably under half what I could earn doing the same job in the South of England. I wonder if Electricians earn more than 7-8 pounds per hour in the south of England, I suspect they earn at least 20 pounds per hour.

RawShark you betcha. ;-)

I think it was when I had just bought my season ticket. Had to take out a loan!

If people don't like the cost of living in the SE don't live there!

I considered living there after uni but did the sums and realised, pretty quickly, that the higher wages would not cover the higher costs.

If you are well qualified you can find a job in a less well off part of the country and have a much better lifestyle.

Move!

Yes just up and move, because it's that simple Margery isn't it! And there are so many jobs in lots of other regions of the country to go to aren't there.

Yabu plus you get loads of holidays where as most people get 28 days inc bh.

I get no paid holiday at all, not even bank holidays
because I'm self employed

i.m a nurse top band 5 i think we earn a reasonable wage not great but reasonable i think my band 5 rate is quoted at 26000 but actually i earn significantly more than that as i work most weekends and mainly unsocial hours career progression in my field [mental health ] is fair but for all the extra stress i personally dont think my pay rise would be worth it nursing is nt what it used to be very stressful and far to much paperwork but to be honest i dont think i could earn a similar wage in the private sector

What jobs pay £13,000 and £15,000 per annum?

Admin, nursery nurse, receptionist, lots really depending on where you live.

Sorry. Badly expressed. But the jobs that make under £15k, what are they?
OP, like everyone else, I think you are doing pretty well. But a lot will depend on where you live. Look at your monthly income rather than your annual income. It helps to see how much you actually get. Gross figures aren't very helpful.

Banks counter staff, shops, waitresses, care workers, aux nurses. Hairdressers.

nkf
Anything in a supermarket, superstore (B&Q), anything part time, Teaching Assistant, dinner lady, private sector bin mane, care assistant, cleaner in a hospital, waitress, takeaway staff

you need to look at the job adverts in your local paper if you did not know

why do you think the National Minimu wage legislation has been set up to enforce a minimum of £11640 full time equivalent?

So, is it accurate to say that a full time under £15k ob will be a job you don't need a degree for? Or A levels?

not really relevant now that 40% of kids have degrees and from next year staying at school till 18 will be compulsory

Not necessarily with the graduate unemployed rate, unless on a graduate scheme many bank workers are low paid and work up.

I don't think it's fair to say all lower paid staff don't have good qualifications.

Vocational degrees tend to start out paying more from what I've experienced, teachers social workers, that type of thing but might not keep pace later on.

In my last office most of the admin staff had degrees. Paid about 15-16k. It's the only work they could get.

Plus I know several qualified teachers really struggling to get work (one getting paid 15k)

YABU, that's what a lot of couples are on (both working)

I used to be a nurse and earned more than friends who graduated from other degrees!, never got the whole "oooo you nurses aren't paid enough" thing TBH, its become such an automatic mantra that people just believe that nurses are on a pittance compaired to everyone else which is NOT true! I had a career change and haven't been paid as much since. DH works in a job that people assume is well paid and isn't paid as much as I was as a low grade nurse! (and he doesn't get the annual leave etc either)

I don't mean the jobs aren't done by graduates. We all know graduates working as waitresses. I mean jobs that don't require higher qualifications. We would expect a nurse to be much better paid than a waitress because she has trained for longer and has specific skills.

If you have dependent extended family then they could move too. Human history has been about the geographic mobilisation of people due to economic circs.

Why should this generation be any different?

If anything there are more employment opps for highly qualified ppl in the regions and remote areas as there is less competition.