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Butt of jokes to please Mother-In-Law

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123123abc · 26/07/2012 05:30

Hi - any advice on tackling an awkward Mother-in-law situation please ;)
She's 'nice' but a bit of a matriarch and her (middleaged) kids, including my husband, still kowtow to her...including (his) serving me up as the butt of jokes to entertain and appease her. She/they have always followed this pattern of 'family' set up - it obviously 'keeps her sweet'. One of the group is the butt of the jokes - the clown, the buffer, the fool - an outlet for her sharp, sometimes cruel sense of 'humour'. Her late husband was the butt before me. It was all a bit 'one foot in the grave' /only fools and horses comedy sketch type stuff.

You know the type of thing - 'gentle' (?!) constant ribbing about memory lapses..."ooh, memory loss, well you want to see this one...she puts the Marmite in the fridge and the marg in the cupboard...oooh ha ha...what a silly old sausage ha ha!" and other such acutely funny and hilarious (constant) gentle jibes...Its usually when we visit her and can be combined with tutting and frowning to accompany other 'silly' things I do, like when we visit a cafe for tea and I choose to take the food off the tray and place it nicely on the table instead of eating from the tray on the table, or other such 'wallyish' behaviour...it.it makes me feel totally stupid, feeble, unwanted, clownish and third rate. They all have such a belly snigger at me, their stupid old buffer/blithering idiot (who is actually thought of as a fairly talented, intelligent, attractive and kind person by her friends outside of this setup). This has taken place regularly now every Christmas and all other visits to her. The other daughter in law gets it sometimes, but she is absent from these gatherings a lot more now (I dont know how she managed that!). To make it worse - the mother in law is now 14 months a widow - so 'needs' more cheering up and 'taking her mind off her loss' - hence my 'forgiving' it for the months following the immediate bereavement.

I lost my mother 4 years ago to 10 years of leukaemia and my father 10 years ago to bowel cancer. I have one disabled brother only. I understand bereavement and the need for kindness, but I never generated situations wherein someone was labelled and treated as the clown, simply to distract me from my sorrows. I have a very good sense of humour - but it never involves singling anyone out for re-designing their 'role' in a social set up.

To make it worse - the visits will step up now as Christmas will approach. Ive talked to my husband about this - he's promised (again and again) to stop it and is sympathetic - but the minute we are in her house, it starts again. I spend time crying or fuming or texting friends in her bathroom, craving to just get out. Yet, when we go out for a little walk, she reaches for my arm to cling onto (Les Dawson style!!) down the street! I resent this as surely clowns/old fools shouldnt be capable of supporting (quite a lot heavier than me too!) old ladies?!
Help. Any witty remarks would be helpful to throw back at them/her when the butt of jokes thing starts would be welcome. I have no mum now to ask for advice! Help! kindest wishes and thanks xx

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exoticfruits · 26/07/2012 14:13

Always keep the high moral ground - much more effective.

JamieandTheOlympicTorch · 26/07/2012 14:15

Yes, fuck off will give them fodder. There they were, being "funny" and she swore at them !!!!

JamieandTheOlympicTorch · 26/07/2012 14:15

...although I would be telling them to fuck off in my head (I am telling them to fuck off and I don't even know them) Grin

holyfishnets · 26/07/2012 14:29

I would either walk off or even pretend you had to do something as soon as the words fell from their lips. Effectively cutting them off mid stream and signaling my disinterest. You could even just make yourself a cup of tea and drink it in the garden out of the way.

Or directly say 'are you meaning to be nasty? Just that putting people down to make yourself feel better isn't acceptable'

holyfishnets · 26/07/2012 14:35

Or stop visiting, tell them you don't enjoy spending time with them as they are so nasty to you. Being out when they visit (swimming or walking or with friends) or not going with DH to their house will speak volumes. Be honest about your reasons to DH.

Your Dh really should be standing your ground. Is he a mummys boy?

holyfishnets · 26/07/2012 14:38

'do you mean to be rude?'

cfc · 26/07/2012 14:46

A good old fashioned "oh do shut up" combined with a bored face might work.

JellySwinger · 26/07/2012 15:33

In the inimitable words of Kath Day Knight say "Oi give it a bone" Smile

Stropzilla · 26/07/2012 15:58

I had this with my (not so D) FIL. Total narcissist. 15 years of jibes, I'd finally had enough of being ridiculed and one-upped constantly. I was EXTREMELY mature and shouted at him to fuck off. He didn't speak to me for 2 wonderful years. Now, he's a lot more polite to me and targets other people because he knows I won't stand for it.

I thought the family would take the piss, turns out they'd all wanted to say something for years!

NonAstemia · 26/07/2012 16:47

purplewithred Thu 26-Jul-12 06:45:50 said
If your DH starts any of this crap then a swift knee to the balls each and every time should show some results.

Yeah great advice there - I've got a friend who does this to her husband and I've told him to just punch her really hard in the breasts whenever she does it.

Hmm
NonAstemia · 26/07/2012 17:08

Some great advice on this thread though OP - I hope you find it helpful. Smile

carernotasaint · 26/07/2012 17:30

What is happening here is bullying and abusive. In fact i would go so far as to say that it is a subtle form of domestic abuse.
Watch it OP because ive seen situations like this before. When your MIL is no longer able to wipe her own arse due to age she will be expecting YOU to do it. Id lay money on it.

IN this situation this would badly affect how id feel about a DH. I certainly couldnt bring myself to have sex with him. Abuse and lack of respect is NOT a turn on and i would lose all respect for him. I couldnt sleep with a man i didnt respect. He would be out the door.

SoDesperate · 26/07/2012 19:11

I have put up with this from my 'D'H for almost 40 years! It almost destroyed me.

He even joked that the secretary at our (registry office) wedding was so gorgeous he almost married her instead :( Yeah very funny!

:(

I am sad for you that your DH is not supporting you. I urge you not to tolerate this at all! No more!

ErrorError · 26/07/2012 19:57

SoDesperate has a really good point. In my previous post I was trying to see all sides (I'm a bit of a fence sitter in real life, but because I try to have empathy for all, within reason). However, if it's really bothering you, you must nip it in the bud... or you could end up miserable and as it is, you already dread going to MILs house. talking to MIL and DH separately, or even just the two of them and yourself together would be a really good way to communicate your feelings. Much better than the idea of an awkward family conference, or even worse... festering until blow-up point.

carernotasaint · 26/07/2012 21:41

He even joked that the secretary at our (registry office) wedding was so gorgeous he almost married her instead

Christ Almighty. What a mysogynistic arsehole!

carernotasaint · 27/07/2012 20:33

OP have you had time to broach him with this again yet.

Springforward · 27/07/2012 20:47

I'd call him/ her on it every time it happened TBH. My DM could be a bit like that sometimes, I hated it and so eventually learned to give as good as I got.

Springforward · 27/07/2012 20:50

Also had a DFiance who did this. I ended the engagement.... I couldn't see a life in which I wasn't constantly ridiculed, so I opted out. His loss!

MummytoKatie · 27/07/2012 22:17

This is a husband problem not a MIL problem.

I would calmly explain to your dh that each time he does it you respect and love him a little bit less. And that he needs to decide if that is what he really wants.

Alternatively you could try what I do with my toddler and explain the consequences of his actions. One time and he's doing all the nights with the baby. Twice and you are off to a spa weekend. Etc. And make sure you say about each one at the time.

"123 is such a silly sausage to eat her food not on the tray."
"Yes I am - Oooh MIL - did I tell you that Dh is paying for me to go on hols to Italy with the girls. Isn't that lovely of him!" And smile nicely.

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