To ask that you speed up a little.

[Dawndonna]

I live in a rural area. I have to go about my daily business, appointments, shopping etc. So, if you're visiting and admiring the scenery, please pull over. Do not drive at 20mph on a sixty mile an hour road upon which overtaking is either bloody dangerous or impossible.
Drives me fucking mental

Oh my lord I sympathise. I don't have a commute anymore but when I did I used to have to go along the road to Minehead for work and then with my next job up Cheddar Gorge or through Wells. I used to be at bashing-my-head-on-the-steering-wheel point by the end of the drive during the summer!

Dolly was a very smart horse and she was pissed. Looking back it was quite funny that she kicked the car. She had new shoes so the dent was pretty bad.

I would never let anyone who isn't competent on the road with a horse. I used to give riding lessons and I think the youngest person I took out on the road was 15 or 16 and they had been riding for around 10 years and were mature enough to handle it. Normally I wanted them to have passed the theory part of their driving test before taking them out so I know they know the rules of the road.

oh yes

is just a thing that I think a minority of drivers don't seem to anticipate - although the majority of drivers I encounter as a rider are well prepared and pleasant

IT all depends what you mean by 'windy country lanes'. I liove ina tourist area and tourist drivers seem to think the relatively wide coast road, on which it is safe to do 60, is a 'windy country road' because it is more so than roads they usually drive. THey then drive at 40 on it. Very annoying. SIngle track lane are obviously different, but again, I get irritated by the way they won't pull over to the side. It's as if they think the grass on the verge will scratch their car.
TOurists seem to forget how to drive, how to walk, how to push a shopping tolley and what sort of cereal they like. Why?

I think from about 12 children can do the road test so could ride out unaccompanied by an adult then? My daughter has been known to ride to the co-op and leave the pony in the car park but presumably with someone holding him.

" if someone is driving at, say, 40 in a 60 zone if they are driving sensibly, not looking at the scenery, but simply think it's the right speed for the road. Of course someone else behind they might disagree but that doesn't matter. "

Depends upon the circumstances.

If it's only one car behind then you may have a point about " the right speed for the road " but if there is a queue behind then that's just being selfish and bad driving as well.

there is something incredibly infuriating about the drivers who do 40 constantly, cruise control maybe - don't mind someone who is clearly unfamiliar with the road braking at every twist and turn and picking their way carefully, although it is a bit irritating it's not worth the effort of being cross. It's the 40 all the way people completely heedless of risk in villages where children have to walk with little or no footpath, and am glad others have noticed them too. Have started warning oncoming traffic of imaginary speed traps since I got sick of scraping own and other people's squashed cats off the road.

Aargh, yes that annoys me much more. There is a road near me that turns from a 60mph limit to a 30 limit and some people sail through both as if their car has a fixed speed of 40mph.

No, you're correct of course, pendeen. I should have said, it doesn't necessarily matter.

It's good common sense to clear a queue if you can, of course.

Never have a queue behind me as would pull over.

Just because you as locals know your windy lanes done expect tourists to do so, they may well need to drive slower.

Most accidents are caused by speed not slowness, not rocket science.

Police pull over someone doing 50, (excepting motorway) don't be so bloody silly.

My dd was badly injured in a crash, sort of makes one think just that little bit more really.

Stop being stupid arses and just slow down, windy lanes or straight roads, all see crashes due to driver error, weather conditions, sudden animal or child intrusion or loss of judgment.

Noone needs to rush anywhere, none of us are that busy and important. Excepting 999 vehicles.

What drives me mad about countryside speed limits is how frequently they change along a relatively short length of road. It's about ten minutes' drive along a single carriageway from where I live to the lane next to my ILs' village. No sooner have you got the car from 30 to 60 than there's a sign telling you to slow down for the bendy bits. Strangers are apt to overtake the second the national speed limit sign is on the horizon, not realising that if they get up to speed they'll have to slow right down or they'll struggle to miss being snapped by the speed cameras in the 30 and 40 zones.
Off the single carriageway the lane has a national speed limit sign all the way, but unless there's someone behind me I prefer to stay below 40, as there's no footpath and you can't always see what's coming. Only a bloody lunatic would drive it at 60.

Police pull over someone doing 50, (excepting motorway) don't be so bloody silly.
I'll tell my bil that you said he's being silly for pulling people over.
In the meantime, there really is no need to be so bloody rude, is there.

I'm so sorry to hear about your DD thebody. But yes, it is quite true that the police will pull you over for dangerous driving, and always driving at 50 or less is potentially dangerous. It's not about rushing, it's about being aware of the road conditions.

" Most accidents are caused by speed "

Quite untrue.

Most incidents are caused by poor driving.

pendeen is right. Also, I have heard (and I don't know how they work this out but it made me think) that 90% of potential accidents are prevented by careful driving. You can't just toddle along at 50 assuming that will keep you safe - and if you can only drive to feel safe at 50, you should not be on the road.

To travel constantly at one speed if anything shows a lack of awareness of the road and conditions, a driver who is paying attention will generally vary their speed as they drive

also is part of the fun of getting from a to b isn't it, sticking your foot down when you get to the national speed limit sign and getting some fresh air around your wheels - is the reward for being good through the villages

Our nearest motorway is over 100 miles away.

I drive at 60 on the straight, wide, safe parts of nsl single carriageway and 65-70 on the wide, safe parts of nsl dual carriageway.

I also do not break the speed limit, particularly in built up areas - towns, villages etc.

People who refuse to go above 50 just because, even though the road conditions are perfect and they know the road are being a bit silly and are probably not confident enough to be behind a wheel at all if they don't trust in their ability to drive over 50.

the most sensible thing to do when you're not sure of the roads, is to pull over and allow people to pass.

thebody I'm sorry to hear about your daughter but you sound like an awful driver.

There is a very old legitimate reason for the downhill priority.
It refers back to the days of coach and horses. It was much easier to stop a team of horses going UP ( with the weight of the coach braking them anyway) than it was to stop a team going DOWN as the horses had to brake the weight of the coach as well.

Knew one of my useless facts would come in handy!

OH, that's rather lovely breville!

I got stuck on a narrow, windy road yesterday, behind a woman who has stopped (I hesitate to say pulled over) to take a photo of her teenagers sitting on a gate. She hadn't pulled into the gateway at all as clearly she needed the distance to frame the photo.

Well I have only been involved in 1 accident, not my fault, and have no speeding fines or ever been stopped by the police.

Been driving since 17 so qualified for 26 years so don't think I am a 'shit' driver.

Kinda wonder if speed doesn't kill then why are there do many road safety adverts telling us to 'kill our speed?'

Dawndona!! Instead of asking your bil if he pulls over careful drivers just ask him how he feels when he knocks on a parents door at 8 am to tell them to get dressed and be ready to get to the airport as their dd Is badly injured following a crash In France. Ages 12 and has multiple injuries,. As have all her friends and one death.

Just ask him.