To ask that you speed up a little.

[Dawndonna]

I live in a rural area. I have to go about my daily business, appointments, shopping etc. So, if you're visiting and admiring the scenery, please pull over. Do not drive at 20mph on a sixty mile an hour road upon which overtaking is either bloody dangerous or impossible.
Drives me fucking mental

it is very funny following people when they drive past the tank firing range when they are firing, they slam on the brakes and look petrified.

Yeah and that's despite the many "SUDDEN GUNFIRE" signs.

YANBU.

I'll have (another) word with my Dad about it, ok?

Yes to tourists and the pavement.

The worst being a group of tourists, who sounded English, standing in front of our M&S snapping pictures of the sign.

Why, yes, we do have M&S here in Belfast. It's just like your M&S. Really. I promise it is.

So move your ass, I'm trying to get things done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The limit for a van is less than that for a car, that's why they slow down.

It's the one speed wonders that irk me. 40mph regardless.

Locally a lot of the roads where in theory you could do 60 it simply wouldn't be safe to. If my driving at 45-50 annoy people then frankly tough I have seen to many accidents up that road to go faster just to keep other drivers happy!

Depends if you are the only one doing 45 - 50.

Yes and bloody do not stop randomly to take photos. And the cattle grids do not have to be driven over at 0.0001 mph. And use your indicators.

Alameda I wrote that after going to Beccles, yesterday!

And cyclists in the middle of the road or two abreast. And horses taking up the whole road and pooing all over it. Grr.

Parallel to the busy fast twisting dangerous mainroad to big local main town there is the old railway painstakingly converted to a cycle path and clearly signposted. So why is the road infested with Bradley Wiggins wanabees?

The reason for the national speed limit sign is the speed limit varies whether you are in a car, van, lorry or towing

www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Roadsafetyadvice/DG_178867

so 60mph for a car on single carriage but 50mph for a van
dual carriage 70mph for car 60 mph van

but please people if you are driving through the nightmare that is Edinburgh city centre switch off the sat nav and read the diversion signs

Oh and on single track roads, y'know the bit where it says "passing place" it not a euphenism for stop here for a pee, it so you can let the car behind overtake, or the car coming toward you pass without having to drive into a peat bog or up a coo's erse

Oh, lord. I did a thread a while back being angry about people not knowing the national speed limit on dual carriageway is 70 not 60. Shedloads of people insisted it was 60 and/or that it had recently changed from 60. It was like slamming my head on a brick wall.

My dad is one of those who drives at 40 pointing at the scenery. I wouldn't mind him driving more slowly if he thinks it's safer but driving at 40 while not looking at the road is going to land you in a ditch!

Can we also add: if you drive down a single-lane road, chances are you will at some stage need to pull in to pass someone. At this point, if you stop dead and look confused, yes, they might back. But if you have a passing place clearly visible just behind you, or are coming up a steep hill meeting someone coming down, you need to back! If you can't do it you should not be driving at all.

Also, tourists, if you are taking a picture of, for example, the Bridge of Sighs or that gurt big library building what they have, please be aware that every fucker takes the same exact picture and if I waited for all of you to finish, I would never get in to do some work. So that is why I stepped through your picture. Not because I am uniquely rude.

Cyclists are allowed to ride two abreast, btw, they do it to stop you passing them on corners.

YABU.

As someone who doesn't live in the countryside, I find the thought of harebending round corners on a single carriageway terrifying. I know they limit is 60mph but its down to a single car widths in some places.

Belive me, I am NOT looking at the scenery. I am on high alert for bloody great mahoosive Range Rovers with drivers who know the roads like the back of their hand speeding round the corner in front of me.

I hate beyond a passion driving in the countryside. Give me a spiders web of a city centre with all it's bus lanes and one way systems and Im happy.

Agree about people needing to learn how to use passing places on single track roads. I don't agree about the hill priority being for people going downhill though.

A few years ago, DH & I were holidaying in the Lake District. One day, we drove over Hardknott pass. It is a very steep road (I think one of the steepest in England) with a gradient of 30%, full of hairpin bends, and not wide enough for two cars to pass each other in most parts (can't quite remember if officially single track).

As we were going up, a car started going down. It drove past several places where it could have easily stopped and waited, which forced us to have to stop and let it past. The road was so steep that our hill start did not work, and our car kept rolling backwards, despite DH's best attempts to rev the engine and put his foot down. This was very very alarming, but luckily we hit a less steep bit and managed to get the car moving forwards again before we went off the road.

The car going downhill would have been able to see us for quite a while before we met as well, so that can't be used as an excuse.

pat - fair point! That must have been scary. It's just it is usually quite hard to reverse uphill and you're going towards the brow of the hill where people can't see, so I was always taught it's better for the person coming up to back down. I guess it depends on exactly what the road is like, though.

People drive like fucking lunatics on the lanes near us - the locals would dearly love for them to slow down. 60 is way too fast for most twisty, single-track lanes.

It's a shame because it isn't safe for children (or anyone for that matter) to walk along some routes.

imo cyclists, walkers and riders should be bold and take up plenty of road space. Hugging the kerb does nobody any favours at all.

Cars going up hill have priority in most cases, surely?

Thing is, Gnocchi this was on a reasonable road, yesterday. Okay, you can't overtake, but there is more than enough room for a car in either direction. This particular road however, goes along the top of the Waveney Valley, and the views are breathtaking. But, when I need to go from one small town to another for the dentist, at a particular time, I want to scream at the old man in a hat driver doing twenty and pointing, because I can't pass him safely.
Single tracks, yes, I understand, I do one on the school run, it's sixty, but anyone doing more than forty will end up in a ditch on the bends.

I dunno, jenai, I just know what I was taught - but by my mum, not by an instructor, so could well be wrong! There's a hill into our village where everyone will let people going down have priority, but maybe it's just habit from knowing what the road is like.

I don't honestly care what people do so long as they don't do that annoying thing of stopping dead and watching you, when you can see they have a passing place right behind them and there isn't one anywhere near you.

Actually scratch that - it depends. The person for whom it will be easiest to reverse should do so. Or, if coming down you see someone coming up, just bloody way the 20 seconds for them to reach you. Job done.

pendeen anyone going faster than that is at serious risk of being yet another one in the accident statistics.

It's all about being sensible and reading the road, if your to busy looking at the pretty views then your not driving safely.

It really annoys me when someone drives past a passing place and then expects me to reverse to let them past with no passing points close.